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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    Be careful. The emergent AI is using your PC to record store part of its memory. It would be just your luck it's using it to keep copies of its tax returns for 1983 to 1987, 1992, and 1996, as well as extra copies of the Topeka Kansas phone directory.

    Software Zen: delete this;
    Fold With Us![^]

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    Christopher Duncan
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    I promise you, tax returns from my musician days in the 80s wouldn't use up 20 bytes. :)

    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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    • J jhaga

      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

      If you have System Restore activated they can be there or you might have an extra partition on the hard disk.

      jhaga

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      Filip C
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      This is indeed the most likely answer i had the same problem on my 100GB os partition the System Information Volume folder was 15GB so 15% of your 150Gig is 22.5GB Click here to found out how to decrease it. Basicly it's just the command: vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=2GB

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

        Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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        peterchen
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        Is Volume Shadow Copy service enabled by default? (That's the "previous versions" thing in file properties, but the proeprty sheet is independent of the service). It eats disk space, sure - but it's a great feature. (We use it on the W2K3 file server).

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        • J jhaga

          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

          If you have System Restore activated they can be there or you might have an extra partition on the hard disk.

          jhaga

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          ndwilson
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          jhaga wrote:

          Christopher Duncan wrote: Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

          In the past I've found that the Recycle Bin by default takes 10% of disk space and locks that away for itself. System Restore takes another 10% for its restore points. Mathematically that (10%+10%)*150GB = 30GB! Ta-da! :cool: Neil

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

            Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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            TJO1
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            Not sure if I understand your problem correctly... But I have used Treesize for quite some time and get good results. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml[^] Cheers Tim

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

              Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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              eslsys
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              I've used http://windirstat.info/[^] before, good for a graphical mapping of disk usage and whats using what

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                Interesting. I'll look into that. Thanks. :)

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                Starting with Vista, the cmd shell has been enhanced to display alternate data streams. just do a dir with /R switch, and it will report names and sizes of ADS. Nota that downloaded files DO have and ADS called Zone.Identifier, but on my system (W7 RC), this alternate file is just 26 bytes. if you want to get at content without getting visual studio started, just do: more filename:stream_name > whatever>.txt this will copy your stream to a file. Note that your problem is most probably not ADS's, but Volume Shadow Copies (for system restore and uninstall), which are stored in the System Volume Information directory. Access is limited to the system account on this dir, so you can't see them. You could change permissions on the dir, but I would'nt recommend it (you can really screw your restore capabilities if you mess around with those files). a better way to seem them is to use the vssadmin command: vssadmin list shadows or vssadmin list shadowstorage Michel Godfroid

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  I tend to avoid java utilities

                  Why? :confused:

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  I do as well. It's mainly because of the hassle of having to host a separate runtime, which not only grabs an icon in my system tray, but also when it's updated seems likely to break at least some of the Java apps which rely on it. I suspect it wouldn't be anywhere near the issue it is if the JVM supported static linking or side-by-side versioning.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                    n00b Saibot
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                    I'd say C:\Config.Msi + System Restoredata + Volume Shadow Copies data will give you the account for the rest 30Gigs...

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                      Sandeep Datta
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                      You absolutely need to try sequoia view

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                      • C Christopher Duncan

                        I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                        Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                        Tomz_KV
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                        System restore takes a significant amount of space in Vista. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76227-system-restore-disk-space.html[^]

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        • D Dan Neely

                          So how do you find the system restore directory...

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                          Skymir
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                          Actually I stand corrected, I've been turning off system restore for so long I had to look where it was these days. Apparently they moved it into the 'System Volume Information' under _Restore. It used to take a non-windows kernel to make it show you the _Restore folder, now it's just a hidden compressed folder.

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                            Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            I'm a big fan of Treesize[^] I never understood why MS never added a similar function to its folder properties dialogue.

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              Hey, it's a Dell. What can I say? :)

                              Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                              Sidneys1
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                              That's no excuse, I have 230GB on my Dell. Have a nice day, ~Sidneys1

                              Always trying to help, Sidneys1

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                Under the bed is more likely. Someone has to keep the monsters company. :)

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                                Yusubov E
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                                Good catch ! :)

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  I tend to avoid java utilities

                                  Why? :confused:

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                                  Shelby Robertson
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                                  Becasue Java is terrible.

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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                                    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                                    Lost User
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                                    I don't know, but this will let you find out.

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                                      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                                      carlosor
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                                      This is in the shadowstorage folder, I was missing around 125GB: 1. Run Command Prompt as Admininstrator 2. Type: vssadmin list shadowstorage You'll get something like this: Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 19.594 GB Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 21.637 GB Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 25 GB 3. Execute this command to lower it to 5GB: (Or whatever you want) vssadmin resize shadowstorage /On=C: /For=C: /Maxsize=5GB

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                                      • C Christopher Duncan

                                        I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                                        Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                                        Mr Code E
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                                        Windirstat will tell you where it went. I love it.

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