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  • S Simon P Stevens

    This morning as I was driving to the train station I was waved into a lay-by by a man in a high-vis jacket standing in the middle of the road. There were blue police style signs around and traffic cones blocking the main route. It all looked very official, lots of people in high-vis jackets and clipboards etc, but I quickly noticed that there were no actual police uniforms or cars anywhere. I was then approached by another gentleman who asked me for my full name and address. I very politely said, I was sorry, but I wasn't happy giving out personal information when he hadn't told me who he was. I also said I was on my way to catch a train and I was in a hurry, could I please continue. He told me I couldn't because I would have to wait for the 4 cars in front of me to finish. (Who were clearly totally happy to give out their personal details). I pointed out that It would have been nice for them to give me the option before forcing me into this voluntary traffic jam. He said it wasn't voluntary! This surprised me a little. How is answering travel questionnaires not voluntary. I didn't even give him any info anyway. So I missed my train. All because of 4 stupid people in front of me who were totally oblivious to the fact they were giving out all their personal details to total strangers. this problem of security works 2 ways: 1) Companies - If these people collecting data were legitimate they really should have had some ID. 2) People - If we all stop giving out our details to idiot companies unless they prove they have authority then they'll eventually stop asking.

    Simon

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    phannon86
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    Classic social compliance. A high-vis jacket and a clipboard is enough ID for idiots :)

    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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      Cows have horns, but they don't blow them.

      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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      LittleYellowBird
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      Mmmmm ... that's what you think!

      Ali

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      • S Simon P Stevens

        What do you think I am, American?

        Simon

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        Jerry Hammond
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        Simon Stevens wrote:

        What do you think I am, American?

        Because you resisted!! :-D

        "My interest is in the future because I'm going to spend the rest of my life there." - Charles F. Kettering

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        • H hairy_hats

          She cunningly employed a reverse double-shunt on the diagonal.

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          Reverse double-shunt is my speciality, but I find you have to be carefull on the diagonal with the Strand, that can really hurt believe me!

          Ali

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          • L LittleYellowBird

            Reverse double-shunt is my speciality, but I find you have to be carefull on the diagonal with the Strand, that can really hurt believe me!

            Ali

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            hairy_hats
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            What on earth did they put in the water where you went on your hols, Ali?

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            • H hairy_hats

              What on earth did they put in the water where you went on your hols, Ali?

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              Dalek Dave
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              It wasn't water, it was Gin!

              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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              • L LittleYellowBird

                Mmmmm ... that's what you think!

                Ali

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                Dalek Dave
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                I know what I would like to say, but this is the lounge!

                ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                • S Simon P Stevens

                  This morning as I was driving to the train station I was waved into a lay-by by a man in a high-vis jacket standing in the middle of the road. There were blue police style signs around and traffic cones blocking the main route. It all looked very official, lots of people in high-vis jackets and clipboards etc, but I quickly noticed that there were no actual police uniforms or cars anywhere. I was then approached by another gentleman who asked me for my full name and address. I very politely said, I was sorry, but I wasn't happy giving out personal information when he hadn't told me who he was. I also said I was on my way to catch a train and I was in a hurry, could I please continue. He told me I couldn't because I would have to wait for the 4 cars in front of me to finish. (Who were clearly totally happy to give out their personal details). I pointed out that It would have been nice for them to give me the option before forcing me into this voluntary traffic jam. He said it wasn't voluntary! This surprised me a little. How is answering travel questionnaires not voluntary. I didn't even give him any info anyway. So I missed my train. All because of 4 stupid people in front of me who were totally oblivious to the fact they were giving out all their personal details to total strangers. this problem of security works 2 ways: 1) Companies - If these people collecting data were legitimate they really should have had some ID. 2) People - If we all stop giving out our details to idiot companies unless they prove they have authority then they'll eventually stop asking.

                  Simon

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                  CalvinHobbies
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                  As someone that has worked support desk, I can't count the number times people have given me "secure" information that is not required, and never asked for that could have been used in a not so friendly way. I really worry about society sometimes, They make it too easy for scammers and people like Madoff to abuse. :/ It's a matter of common sence.

                  ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principals, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                    I know what I would like to say, but this is the lounge!

                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    and thank you :p

                    Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                    • S Simon P Stevens

                      This morning as I was driving to the train station I was waved into a lay-by by a man in a high-vis jacket standing in the middle of the road. There were blue police style signs around and traffic cones blocking the main route. It all looked very official, lots of people in high-vis jackets and clipboards etc, but I quickly noticed that there were no actual police uniforms or cars anywhere. I was then approached by another gentleman who asked me for my full name and address. I very politely said, I was sorry, but I wasn't happy giving out personal information when he hadn't told me who he was. I also said I was on my way to catch a train and I was in a hurry, could I please continue. He told me I couldn't because I would have to wait for the 4 cars in front of me to finish. (Who were clearly totally happy to give out their personal details). I pointed out that It would have been nice for them to give me the option before forcing me into this voluntary traffic jam. He said it wasn't voluntary! This surprised me a little. How is answering travel questionnaires not voluntary. I didn't even give him any info anyway. So I missed my train. All because of 4 stupid people in front of me who were totally oblivious to the fact they were giving out all their personal details to total strangers. this problem of security works 2 ways: 1) Companies - If these people collecting data were legitimate they really should have had some ID. 2) People - If we all stop giving out our details to idiot companies unless they prove they have authority then they'll eventually stop asking.

                      Simon

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                      jeffwask
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                      This is why I like driving a big truck. I would have jumped a curb and run over someones foot.

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                      • C CalvinHobbies

                        As someone that has worked support desk, I can't count the number times people have given me "secure" information that is not required, and never asked for that could have been used in a not so friendly way. I really worry about society sometimes, They make it too easy for scammers and people like Madoff to abuse. :/ It's a matter of common sence.

                        ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principals, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        Always ask WHY they want the information, usually they cannot answer that one beyond "Because it is on the form".

                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          Gave Paris Hilton's career advisor an idea though.

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                          Michael Bookatz
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                          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                          • L LittleYellowBird

                            Reverse double-shunt is my speciality, but I find you have to be carefull on the diagonal with the Strand, that can really hurt believe me!

                            Ali

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                            Joe Simes
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                            Flexible!

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                            • C CalvinHobbies

                              As someone that has worked support desk, I can't count the number times people have given me "secure" information that is not required, and never asked for that could have been used in a not so friendly way. I really worry about society sometimes, They make it too easy for scammers and people like Madoff to abuse. :/ It's a matter of common sence.

                              ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principals, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                              Michael Bookatz
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                              What has Madoff got to do with Id fraud?

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                              • S Simon P Stevens

                                This morning as I was driving to the train station I was waved into a lay-by by a man in a high-vis jacket standing in the middle of the road. There were blue police style signs around and traffic cones blocking the main route. It all looked very official, lots of people in high-vis jackets and clipboards etc, but I quickly noticed that there were no actual police uniforms or cars anywhere. I was then approached by another gentleman who asked me for my full name and address. I very politely said, I was sorry, but I wasn't happy giving out personal information when he hadn't told me who he was. I also said I was on my way to catch a train and I was in a hurry, could I please continue. He told me I couldn't because I would have to wait for the 4 cars in front of me to finish. (Who were clearly totally happy to give out their personal details). I pointed out that It would have been nice for them to give me the option before forcing me into this voluntary traffic jam. He said it wasn't voluntary! This surprised me a little. How is answering travel questionnaires not voluntary. I didn't even give him any info anyway. So I missed my train. All because of 4 stupid people in front of me who were totally oblivious to the fact they were giving out all their personal details to total strangers. this problem of security works 2 ways: 1) Companies - If these people collecting data were legitimate they really should have had some ID. 2) People - If we all stop giving out our details to idiot companies unless they prove they have authority then they'll eventually stop asking.

                                Simon

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                Stupid people suck everyday. X|

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  It wasn't water, it was Gin!

                                  ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Sniff! I really miss my Gin on this wagon.

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                                  • S Stuart Dootson

                                    Simon Stevens wrote:

                                    one of those lay-bys with a grass verge between it and the road trapping unwitting travellers with no means of escape

                                    And that's when you realise you've found one of those very rare times that a 4x4 would actually be of more use than a normal car....

                                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    Or a motorbike. I often avoid roadblocks on the way to work by just doing a u-turn across the grass verge, right in front of the roadblock, with the cops watching.

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                                    • C CalvinHobbies

                                      As someone that has worked support desk, I can't count the number times people have given me "secure" information that is not required, and never asked for that could have been used in a not so friendly way. I really worry about society sometimes, They make it too easy for scammers and people like Madoff to abuse. :/ It's a matter of common sence.

                                      ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principals, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      Reminds me of a comment left on my recent question[^] on StackOverflow: Can you post exact connection string you're using ? – s_ruchit 2 days ago

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Always ask WHY they want the information, usually they cannot answer that one beyond "Because it is on the form".

                                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                        CalvinHobbies
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                                        as Tech support,People have not only given me their ID (when I would assist them with login issues, and the system is setup with a mechanics to reset password), but I would get " extra info" that one is not suppose to give out due to secuirty reasons. boggles the mind some days.

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        Always ask WHY they want the information, usually they cannot answer that one beyond "Because it is on the form".

                                        ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principals, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                                        • B benjymous

                                          I've been caught in one of those before, and, not being able to escape, gave false details instead. This one was a surveying people's travel habits so that the council could decide how best to spend its mediocre road improvements budget.

                                          Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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                                          Chris Meech
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                                          That's done here in Ontario, Canada, though it's done in a much more voluntary way. A group will set-up on the side of the road and take pictures of your car as you travel by. The photos are then scanned for the license plate and using department of transportaion information you eventually receive in the mail a voluntary survey to fill out. While it may seem a bit Big Brother like, it's all voluntary and surely doesn't impede your travelling. :)

                                          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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