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Apple’s Obsession With Secrecy Grows Stronger

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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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    Shog9 0
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    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

    It can only help... They can pretend that they're Maxwell Smart!

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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      Doctor Nick
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      Based on how few people would bother you if they had to go through that much security I would say HELPS.

      ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

        a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices

        And just how does this prevent people from leaking bits to the internet?

        Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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          Dan Neely
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          I work in defense, they're more in your face and sloppy than anything I've dealt with on the job. We've got badges with pin numbers for access control, but only people with access to X can get into where X is being done, so having to throw blankets over your desk is a non issue. At the end of the day it just gets put in a safe and you spin the lock. From the sound of it someone in apple needs to read the NISPOM and redo their procedures to be more secure and less obnoxious at the same time. On the other hand the hippies in Apple would probably suffer from exploded heads from reading a doc with DoD logos. On the gripping head ignore my previous objection. :laugh:

          It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

            It can only help... They can pretend that they're Maxwell Smart!

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            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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            More like Sir Digby Chicken Caesar[^] ;)

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            • J Judah Gabriel Himango

              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices

              And just how does this prevent people from leaking bits to the internet?

              Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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              Lost User
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              Judah Himango wrote:

              And just how does this prevent people from leaking bits to the internet?

              It doesn't increase security that much. An employee with bad intentions can always leak, unless you erase his/her mind. Security isn't always about making things more secure. Upper management, ease of mind, they need good sleep :rolleyes:

              I are troll :)

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              • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices

                And just how does this prevent people from leaking bits to the internet?

                Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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                Dan Neely
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                The 99% of the people not working on it can't get in to snoop, which means if there is a leak its much easier to track down the perpetrator.

                It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  And just how does this prevent people from leaking bits to the internet?

                  It doesn't increase security that much. An employee with bad intentions can always leak, unless you erase his/her mind. Security isn't always about making things more secure. Upper management, ease of mind, they need good sleep :rolleyes:

                  I are troll :)

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                  VentsyV
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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  An employee with bad intentions can always leak, unless you erase his/her mind.

                  The source has said for the record that he does not remember any mind erasing being performed during his tenure. :laugh:

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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    An employee with bad intentions can always leak, unless you erase his/her mind.

                    The source has said for the record that he does not remember any mind erasing being performed during his tenure. :laugh:

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                    +5 :-D A leak, sir? Never, in my entire career as a plumber, did my eraser mind :blank stare:

                    Going to hibernate until the next alarm triggers :)

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

                      It can only help... They can pretend that they're Maxwell Smart!

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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                        Thats kinda the way Vista works...wonder whats up??? Mike

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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                          Steve Mayfield
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                          With so many doors, by the time they get to the last one coming in, it's time to turn around and go the other direction to leave...and by the time they get to the last door going out, its time to go to work again...little do they know that they are walking on foot powered walkways that are connected to turbine generators and they in fact are powering the rest of the Apple complex :laugh:

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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                            smcnulty2000
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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices,

                            All this fuss to avoid a leak? They could put the restroom inside the secure areas. :-D

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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                              Dallas Adams
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                              And we finally traced the leak! It was the carpenter that had to fix all these bloody doors.

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                                I work in defense, they're more in your face and sloppy than anything I've dealt with on the job. We've got badges with pin numbers for access control, but only people with access to X can get into where X is being done, so having to throw blankets over your desk is a non issue. At the end of the day it just gets put in a safe and you spin the lock. From the sound of it someone in apple needs to read the NISPOM and redo their procedures to be more secure and less obnoxious at the same time. On the other hand the hippies in Apple would probably suffer from exploded heads from reading a doc with DoD logos. On the gripping head ignore my previous objection. :laugh:

                                It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                                dan neely wrote:

                                needs to read the NISPOM

                                You threw in NISPOM as though we all know what it means.

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Clickety[^] Employees working on top-secret projects must pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices, according to one former employee who worked in such areas. I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

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                                  Chris Quinn
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                                  Anyone who wants to find out more about the security on BIG projects should read Richard Feynman's accounts of working on the Manhattan Project - hilarious (and frightening) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Feynman![^]

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    I wonder whether it helps/hinders employee productivity.

                                    It can only help... They can pretend that they're Maxwell Smart!

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    :) I was going to say "it must cost them a fortune in nose surgery", and see if anyone got it.

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                                      dan neely wrote:

                                      needs to read the NISPOM

                                      You threw in NISPOM as though we all know what it means.

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      NISPOM[^]

                                      It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                                        NISPOM[^]

                                        It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                                        "lmgtfy" LOL, So searching has now got it's SUV equivalent ;P

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