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  • C Christian Graus

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    Children need their mothers at home to nurture the kids to their fullest potential.

    Is that why you turned out the way you did ? I'm surprised anyone in your family had/has a job.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Is that why you turned out the way you did ? I'm surprised anyone in your family had/has a job.

    He said his mum was a crack addict, his dad left and her boyfriends beat him. Pretty sad.

    I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I doubt it will ever happen, but it actually should, we are choking the earth.

      All that does it put the parents into bondage, then the state will take the children since the parents can't pay the fines and whatnot. In china they have forced abortions, even taking the living baby and killing it. Is that what you want to see for the rest of humanity?

      Christian Graus wrote:

      What do you base this on ? Either way, given that the big issue these people have is no food and no birth control, I am sure that birth control is part of their vision, yes. Are people in the west given access to the pill ? Why not in the countries where there is no food ?

      This is something that really pains me to get into because I start being reminded of Nazi style eugenics.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      You are so ignorant, it hurts me to try to imagine your thought processes.

      No, I am well informed, you have to try your hardest to imagine my thought processes to truly understand where I am coming from. You should give ENDGAME (HighRes)[^] a try. I know it pains you to try to watch something like that, but you really need to. It is just two hours of your time, but it will help you understand where I am coming from. It is a start anyway. I don't think you could ever really imagine my thought processes though. Ignore it if you will, but I highly recommend it.

      "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      All that does it put the parents into bondage, then the state will take the children since the parents can't pay the fines and whatnot.

      This is dumb, I said when I suggested it, that it was a thought experiment. Under my suggestion, parents never lose their child to the government.

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      In china they have forced abortions, even taking the living baby and killing it. Is that what you want to see for the rest of humanity?

      When I made the statement, apart from being clear that I wasn't suggesting it could or should happen, I was specific about if it did, it would have to be nothing like China

      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      This is something that really pains me to get into because I start being reminded of Nazi style eugenics.

      So, you have no answer ?

      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      It is just two hours of your time,

      I remember the times when I could say 'just two hours'. Two hours, is too long. Especially when I've seen this stuff before, it's nothing new to me.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        Is that why you turned out the way you did ? I'm surprised anyone in your family had/has a job.

        He said his mum was a crack addict, his dad left and her boyfriends beat him. Pretty sad.

        I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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        Well, that figures. I mean, yes, it is very sad, but it's not surprising that he is the end result.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          My dad makes good money working for the government.

          "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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          But does he talk to you ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            All that does it put the parents into bondage, then the state will take the children since the parents can't pay the fines and whatnot.

            This is dumb, I said when I suggested it, that it was a thought experiment. Under my suggestion, parents never lose their child to the government.

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            In china they have forced abortions, even taking the living baby and killing it. Is that what you want to see for the rest of humanity?

            When I made the statement, apart from being clear that I wasn't suggesting it could or should happen, I was specific about if it did, it would have to be nothing like China

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            This is something that really pains me to get into because I start being reminded of Nazi style eugenics.

            So, you have no answer ?

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            It is just two hours of your time,

            I remember the times when I could say 'just two hours'. Two hours, is too long. Especially when I've seen this stuff before, it's nothing new to me.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I remember the times when I could say 'just two hours'. Two hours, is too long. Especially when I've seen this stuff before, it's nothing new to me.

            You haven't seen it. Just consolidate the two hours you spend typing to me to have enough time to watch the video.

            "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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              But does he talk to you ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              But does he talk to you ?

              Sure, we even share the same world view.

              "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Russ-T wrote:

                I don't see how this is a bad thing, especially since the USA has such a huge number of obese children.

                The goal is to get women away from the family, into the workforce since wages will be cut and families will need two workers to make endsmeat, and to seperate the children from the parents so the state can teach them the way the government see fit. The less time kids spend with their parents, the more state indoctrination they will get. Over in Europe they have this special education program where kids are supposed to write tickets to their parents on all the bad things they do, such as taking a hot bath (CARBON CRIME). It is a little game they play prepares the kids for the new world order.

                Russ-T wrote:

                are you suggesting that women are somehow inferior?

                Certainly not, but fathers can never compare to a mother. Children need their mothers at home to nurture the kids to their fullest potential. The father is like a bacon getter and protector, the mother is the nurturer.

                "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                Russ-T wrote: are you suggesting that women are somehow inferior? Certainly not, but fathers can never compare to a mother

                So yes, that's exactly what you're saying.

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                Children need their mothers at home to nurture the kids to their fullest potential. The father is like a bacon getter and protector, the mother is the nurturer.

                I'm sorry but that attitude is very 1940s. 1940s Germany. Women have as much right to have their own career as men do. Saying otherwise is a very Taliban-like point of view for you to take.

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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Russ-T wrote: are you suggesting that women are somehow inferior? Certainly not, but fathers can never compare to a mother

                  So yes, that's exactly what you're saying.

                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Children need their mothers at home to nurture the kids to their fullest potential. The father is like a bacon getter and protector, the mother is the nurturer.

                  I'm sorry but that attitude is very 1940s. 1940s Germany. Women have as much right to have their own career as men do. Saying otherwise is a very Taliban-like point of view for you to take.

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                  Russ-T wrote:

                  Women have as much right to have their own career as men do

                  I don't disagree, but once children come into view, a parent needs to be there and a mother is the most logical and natural one.

                  "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    I like the culture of original America

                    First, I doubt htey would want you, and second, I doubt it's exactly what you now think it is.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    They try to force this britney spears style ignorant madison avenue false reality show style makeup wearing homosexual ultra-fearful super sensitive mother-government loving ignorant global warming culture on us and I just can't stand to even watch TV anymore because of it

                    For someone to abandon TV can only be good. But, Britney is big, because she sells. People have not been forced to follow her crap. Your culture is a reflection of the values of your populace, like it or not.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    The History Channel is alright, thats about it

                    It frightens me to agree with you, but I do

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    If you watch the TV news they make it seem like anyone who believes in the Constitution is some kind of extremist terrorist that needs to be silenced.

                    Well, that's one of the biases you have to choose from, yes.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    Nobody should, nor should they be fined for having a child or two or three.

                    I doubt it will ever happen, but it actually should, we are choking the earth. However, that's not what I said. I said people should not be PAID to have children who themselves will also not contribute to society. That's not eugenics, it's common sense.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    Their vision is to prevent children.

                    What do you base this on ? Either way, given that the big issue these people have is no food and no birth control, I am sure that birth control is part of their vision, yes. Are people in the west given access to the pill ? Why not in the countries where there is no food ?

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    They probably wouldn't be poor if it weren't for the government inducing a welfare culture and destroying the economy while teaching kids little in federally funded schools.

                    You are so ignorant, it hurts me to try to imagine your thought processes.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    Planning a family does not involve pairing up with a partner fo

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Actually, I am planning on a trip the Africa,

                    I'd say stop by me for a beer, but our local beers are nothing to speak of by world standards. Stop by for a braai! :)

                    rules

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Actually, I am planning on a trip the Africa,

                      I'd say stop by me for a beer, but our local beers are nothing to speak of by world standards. Stop by for a braai! :)

                      rules

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                      sounds good

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I remember the times when I could say 'just two hours'. Two hours, is too long. Especially when I've seen this stuff before, it's nothing new to me.

                        You haven't seen it. Just consolidate the two hours you spend typing to me to have enough time to watch the video.

                        "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                        Christian Graus
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                        If I can download an MPG, I will watch it on the plane, how's that ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          But does he talk to you ?

                          Sure, we even share the same world view.

                          "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                          Christian Graus
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                          So, it's genetic then ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            If I can download an MPG, I will watch it on the plane, how's that ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                            WMV[^] MP4[^]

                            "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                              WMV[^] MP4[^]

                              "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                              Christian Graus
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                              OK, if it downloads fine, I'll put it in my media player and watch it on the plane.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                                OK, if it downloads fine, I'll put it in my media player and watch it on the plane.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                Make sure you watch the entire video. It gets more interesting as it in the second hour.

                                "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                                  Make sure you watch the entire video. It gets more interesting as it in the second hour.

                                  "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  I've seen all the movies on the plane, so I'll have time to read the F# book I am proof reading, and do this, I am sure.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                                    Make sure you watch the entire video. It gets more interesting as it in the second hour.

                                    "The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    I have it on my media player, I'll watch it and tell you what I think.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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