Stuff that every programmer should know but isn't necessarily in the school books
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What does computer science and windows short-cuts have in common? I think that material is better left to an introduction to computers or business software lay course. If I walked into a C.S. course and the first day the prof. went over such things I would drop the course or switch professors. (Or go to the Department Head and yell).
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Don't worry, there will be lots and lots of stuff about computer science. I was thinking about maybe one 45 minute lecture/hands-on session about this stuff, and mostly because when students talk about the stuff that they remember the most from lectures, it is often some of those small things. What I've learned from 10 years of teaching is that the lectures cannot be too boring, the attention of students will quickly go elsewhere if they get bored. Talking about stuff that isn't theory but helps them in practice will help in keeping their attention.
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I totally agree with Ennis on this. Forget all this intro rubbish. If you've got a bunch of undergrads on a computer science course who don't know basic windows short cuts then they might as well leave immediately. Give them a proper intro to programming, show them some code, get them writing code. Don't teach them how to use computers. If they are ever going to be even semi decent programmers they should be able to figure things like that out for themselves. By all means, if you feel like it, giving them a printed sheet of "tips" then go for it, but don't patronize them by wasting their time with this stuff. Our first day at uni included an intro to "the labs". It was handled perfectly, there was one 3rd year for every ~10 newbies, They handed out printed sheets of common unix commands, and the basic tools you would need, a Java tutorial, and a guide to the various file shares. You could tell within about 5 minutes who was going to make it through the course and who wasn't. The best had emacs/vi up and some simple code running almost immediately. The worst were still trying to figure out what the ls command did. Even having never touched unix before (and very little Java), I was very quickly compiling code. Lesson 2 went straight into full on Java. You could figure out the commands and short cuts in your spare time.
Simon
Totally disagree. When I started learning computer science, I was a newbie myself. If students should be thrown out based on how they perform the first days I would have been thrown out. But here I am, quite a decent programmer (if I may say so myself), and an excellent teacher (you can ask my students!). People reeeealllyyy should learn to be more patient with those that don't succeed immediately.
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:-) But surely this should be taught in kindergarden school!
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Hi all, I will be teaching an introductory course for students studying computer science this fall, and I was thinking that it might be a good idea to spend a little time teaching them about all kinds of stuff that they will probably not read in their books, but are nonetheless useful (and sometimes useless) information for all programmers. Stuff like: - shortcuts, both obvious and not-so-obvious (such as Windows+E to start Windows Explorer, Ctrl+PageUp to switch between tabs in Excel/Chrome etc.) - command line commands, maybe the 10 most commonly used (both on Windows and Unix) - tools they should know exist, both tools that are already installed on their computers (Task Manager, Event Viewer etc.) and others they can download (WinRar, Firebug etc.) - tricks that might come in handy at times (you can use Ctrl+C to copy error messages to the clipboard when a messagebox appears, instead of rebooting when you install Subversion you can just kill Explorer etc.) What would you add to this list? Regards, Daniel
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
Basic debugging, i.e. breakpoints and stepping.
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Hi all, I will be teaching an introductory course for students studying computer science this fall, and I was thinking that it might be a good idea to spend a little time teaching them about all kinds of stuff that they will probably not read in their books, but are nonetheless useful (and sometimes useless) information for all programmers. Stuff like: - shortcuts, both obvious and not-so-obvious (such as Windows+E to start Windows Explorer, Ctrl+PageUp to switch between tabs in Excel/Chrome etc.) - command line commands, maybe the 10 most commonly used (both on Windows and Unix) - tools they should know exist, both tools that are already installed on their computers (Task Manager, Event Viewer etc.) and others they can download (WinRar, Firebug etc.) - tricks that might come in handy at times (you can use Ctrl+C to copy error messages to the clipboard when a messagebox appears, instead of rebooting when you install Subversion you can just kill Explorer etc.) What would you add to this list? Regards, Daniel
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
dabs wrote:
What would you add to this list?
Most of the time it's quicker to do some research on your own, rather than posting questions demanding solutions to problems or asking questions that could be answered with a quick Bing.
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Concept: Virtualization (What it is, with a demo). More shortcuts: Alt+Space+N, Alt+Space+C, Alt+Space+X, WinKey+M, WinKey+D (this is different from WinKey+M, this will "show" the desktop and pressing it again will toggle the windows to previous state, whereas WinKey+M will minimize everything) and there are plenty other I use every day. And when a non-technical person happens to see it, usually it is "shocking" for them. :) Most people know Alt+Tab, but there's also Alt+Shift+Tab and WinKey+Tab. There's also Ctrl+RightArrow (and Ctrl+other directional arrow keys), Ctrl+Home, Ctrl+End, Ctrl+A, ... How to use osalt[^] to find an application that is open source, free and that "just works". How to keep the computer safe (hosts file to begin with?), how can SysInternals suite[^] help in development, etc., NOT using the download manager that comes with IE (oh wait, IE does not have one :rolleyes: ), especially while doing reasonable large downloads. There's a thing called FDM[^], which is free, open source and works like a charm.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
how can SysInternals suite[^] help in development, etc.,
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benjymous wrote:
using prints and messageboxes isn't the best way
Really?! How do you debug your code then?
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How to use a debugger - it's amazing how many new grads have never debugged anything before, and seem amazed when you tell them that using prints and messageboxes isn't the best way
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benjymous wrote:
using prints and messageboxes isn't the best way
I agree: for instance I use the PC Buzzer. :-D
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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Would you tear the shell off a Turtle? Poor little turtle... How do you think Windows feels when you rip it's shell right out from under it? Not really a great idea just to save a minute on a reboot...go get a coffee.
In Weven (and Vista before it), killing Explorer is handled quite gracefully. I have just killed all instances of explorer.exe, and will still be able to post this and continue browsing.
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I second Ennis's post. You are there to teach programming not intro to computers. By all means gather all the material and create a course website. On the first day of the class, tell them about your *extra* course material and *freebies* and let them dig it out from your website. No need to print any paper. I took several classes with a particular professor. I like her because she digs out a lot of relevant material about the course and posts links in the her "course website". Then in the beginning of the class, she reminds the students with a single statement about the material in the website never to mention it again. The best part sometimes when someone asks her she points them to her website. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Yusuf May I help you?
Don't worry, there is a course website, all material is there, there is no book on paper the students must buy, all reading material is on the website, and I have lots of additional material. We strongly discourage students from printing anything if they can avoid it at all. I've been doing this for the last 10 years actually. But this is the first time I've been given the chance to be the one that teaches the very first course the students attend, I've mostly been teaching students in their second and third semesters. I'm a bit surprised about how people have reacted to my post, I didn't realize it was so inaccurate. Obviously this stuff will not be the whole course, the course is focused on the basics of computer science.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
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Concept: Virtualization (What it is, with a demo). More shortcuts: Alt+Space+N, Alt+Space+C, Alt+Space+X, WinKey+M, WinKey+D (this is different from WinKey+M, this will "show" the desktop and pressing it again will toggle the windows to previous state, whereas WinKey+M will minimize everything) and there are plenty other I use every day. And when a non-technical person happens to see it, usually it is "shocking" for them. :) Most people know Alt+Tab, but there's also Alt+Shift+Tab and WinKey+Tab. There's also Ctrl+RightArrow (and Ctrl+other directional arrow keys), Ctrl+Home, Ctrl+End, Ctrl+A, ... How to use osalt[^] to find an application that is open source, free and that "just works". How to keep the computer safe (hosts file to begin with?), how can SysInternals suite[^] help in development, etc., NOT using the download manager that comes with IE (oh wait, IE does not have one :rolleyes: ), especially while doing reasonable large downloads. There's a thing called FDM[^], which is free, open source and works like a charm.
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Would you tear the shell off a Turtle? Poor little turtle... How do you think Windows feels when you rip it's shell right out from under it? Not really a great idea just to save a minute on a reboot...go get a coffee.
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dabs wrote:
instead of rebooting when you install Subversion you can just kill Explorer
:omg: :omg: No no no. It screws most applications that have an icon in the tray area.
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I think you can assume a certain level of computer skills if someone is in a CS class.
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Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
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If I was going to a school and they were teaching that, I'd ask for a refund. Don't get me wrong, some nice "benign hacks/tips/tricks" are fun to learn, but do not make that a "chapter" in your curriculum. Anyway, don't forget to tech them to use the "shut down" button of their computer and learn to live.
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Don't worry, this will only be about one lecture out of a whole course. The course will focus on real computer science stuff. But the point about learning how to use the "shut down" button is really good :-)
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
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Totally disagree. When I started learning computer science, I was a newbie myself. If students should be thrown out based on how they perform the first days I would have been thrown out. But here I am, quite a decent programmer (if I may say so myself), and an excellent teacher (you can ask my students!). People reeeealllyyy should learn to be more patient with those that don't succeed immediately.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
Sorry but no, there are far too many cs students being cranked out these days with a) no critical thinking skills, b) no real desire to become a true professional programmer. I wholeheartedly agree with the others, any cs student that doesn't show a keen interest to figure things out on their own within the first couple of days is someone who should be gently guided away to whatever marketing or business courses are on offer. My very first educational institution experience with computers was in high school and I was programming on paper with a pencil for about 6 months before that knowing I'd get a chance to use my first real computer and wanted to be ready for it. I was *that* motivated. These days most cs students simply want to make money, it's a default choice, they don't actually have an inner desire to learn it for it's own sake, then they clog up the job market and happily acquiesce to all manner of systems designed to ensure programmers are a commodity, nothing more than a big cog in a machine easily replaced which brings down the quality of all the work and the work environment for the rest of us who actually like doing this stuff. Anything that can be done to weed out the people who need their hands held or are just in it for the money is a good thing, you are doing a disservice to your fellow programmers here and everywhere if you do anything less.
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* Unit-testing (NUint, TestDriven.NET) * Using a profiler * Virtual Machines / Remote connections / Remote debugging * Some basic patterns The book "Don't make me think" should also be included :)
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These should certainly be covered, although (at least some of them) they might be better suited when the students have gained some experience. Thanks for the suggestions though.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
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How to use a debugger - it's amazing how many new grads have never debugged anything before, and seem amazed when you tell them that using prints and messageboxes isn't the best way
Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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Maybe you could try to "integrate" those notions along the way, without teaching them explicitly.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
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And the software industry will collapse because of horrible code quality :)
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Charting control [v2.0] OpenGL game tutorial in C++:rolleyes: Yeah right, keep on believing that. That belief is one of the many reasons why there will be no real U.S. programming market in the years to come.
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