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  • E Electron Shepherd

    dan neely wrote:

    How often are server drivers provided for laptop hardware?

    Quite often. There's a lot of overlap between a blade server and a laptop these days. My point was that if you can't find a driver labelled as suitable for XP64, one labelled as suitable for Server 2003 (a mucb more common operating system) will probably work.

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    Will these be listed officially, or will you either need to find a list for your model of someone who manually tried a bunch of likelyish looking server drivers, or beat your head off the wall doing the same?

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    • T Turtle Hand

      I'm assuming that 64bits will let me use all 4 gb and perform faster as well. Maybe I need to bite the bullet with Vista.

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      Turtle Hand wrote:

      perform faster as well

      Considerably from my experience...


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      • K kinar

        I'm pretty sure that Virtual PC doesn't support 64bit clients. In fact, when I last tried it (about 6mo ago), there wasn't any VM software that would install XP64 in a client. Obviously you are talking about the host being XP64 and you hadn't specificly stated that you would be trying to run a 64bit client. But figured I would toss that out there just in case you aren't aware (in case any of your customers are running 64bit).

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        kinar wrote:

        VM software that would install XP64 in a client

        Eh? I haven't got a copy of XP64 but VMWare Workstation has handled everything I've thrown at it from x64 distros of Linux / Server 2003 + 2008 / Vista x64 and even Cosmos. To run 64-bit you do have to be running an x64 host.


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          I'm pretty sure that Virtual PC doesn't support 64bit clients. In fact, when I last tried it (about 6mo ago), there wasn't any VM software that would install XP64 in a client. Obviously you are talking about the host being XP64 and you hadn't specificly stated that you would be trying to run a 64bit client. But figured I would toss that out there just in case you aren't aware (in case any of your customers are running 64bit).

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          John M Drescher
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          I have run win7 64bit and xp64 both under 64 bit linux using virtual box and vmware. I know kvm vmware esx and xen both support this but I have not tried them. I have also ran 64 bit linux under 64 bit windows.

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            kinar wrote:

            VM software that would install XP64 in a client

            Eh? I haven't got a copy of XP64 but VMWare Workstation has handled everything I've thrown at it from x64 distros of Linux / Server 2003 + 2008 / Vista x64 and even Cosmos. To run 64-bit you do have to be running an x64 host.


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            John M Drescher
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            vmware server and player do allow running 64 bit xp, vista and win7 under them. So does virtualbox.

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              Will these be listed officially, or will you either need to find a list for your model of someone who manually tried a bunch of likelyish looking server drivers, or beat your head off the wall doing the same?

              It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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              Electron Shepherd
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              Usually, Server 2003 is listed as one of the offically supported operating systems.

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              • T Turtle Hand

                As mentioned last week, I purchased a new Dell Latitude E6500, with a 4gb of RAM and 250gb of disk. My intent is to use Virtual PC to setup environments for each customer. As the base OS I plan on 64 bit Win XP. Then each virtual instance will have the OS of the customer. Can anyone see flaws in this idea? Does anyone have a better idea? Thanks in advance.

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                Turtle Hand wrote:

                Then each virtual instance will have the OS of the customer.

                Why not just one copy of each OS with each variation in service pack? I'm not sure what each customer is doing differently that you need to separate them. Or do you intend to get them to send you their environment changes as they alter them?

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                • T Turtle Hand

                  As mentioned last week, I purchased a new Dell Latitude E6500, with a 4gb of RAM and 250gb of disk. My intent is to use Virtual PC to setup environments for each customer. As the base OS I plan on 64 bit Win XP. Then each virtual instance will have the OS of the customer. Can anyone see flaws in this idea? Does anyone have a better idea? Thanks in advance.

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                  Use VirtualBox (instead of VirtualPC) because it allows 64-bit clients. I'm running XP64 on my big bog, and have 32-bit and 64-bit virtual machines for XP, Vista, and Weven.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    Use VirtualBox (instead of VirtualPC) because it allows 64-bit clients. I'm running XP64 on my big bog, and have 32-bit and 64-bit virtual machines for XP, Vista, and Weven.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Turtle Hand
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                    Hadn't heard of Virtual Box until today. Thanks for the suggestion John, I'll look into it. At this point it looks like Vista 64 bits running Virtual Box.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Use VirtualBox (instead of VirtualPC) because it allows 64-bit clients. I'm running XP64 on my big bog, and have 32-bit and 64-bit virtual machines for XP, Vista, and Weven.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Turtle Hand
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                      Hey John, I've installed Virtual Box today and have had nothing but trouble with it. It won't complete an install of XP or Vista. It runs into issues reading files from the CD. I've tried on two laptops with the same results. The forums have been a little help, but at this point I'm stuck and trying Virtual PC. Any thoughts?

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