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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Marc Firth wrote:

    I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work"

    All applications always work. They just don't necessarily do what we want them to.

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    Marc Firth
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    Yeah it's one of those point of view things I guess. Like "Buy one, get one free" - How could it be free - I had to buy one to get it! :laugh:

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      Yeah it's one of those point of view things I guess. Like "Buy one, get one free" - How could it be free - I had to buy one to get it! :laugh:

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      "Buy Two for half price each"

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      • M Marc Firth

        I'm just reading the Google Chrome OS article that was in today's daily news (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html[^]). I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work" And there's another problem. At the moment the web is too slow to be an OS. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web - but I also understand that there are some things that should stay on the desktop. All my media design apps, for example.

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Marc Firth wrote:

        web is too slow to be an OS

        Marc Firth wrote:

        web

        Marc Firth wrote:

        OS

        I am not sure how you made that association?

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Marc Firth wrote:

          web is too slow to be an OS

          Marc Firth wrote:

          web

          Marc Firth wrote:

          OS

          I am not sure how you made that association?

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          Marc Firth
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          web is too slow to perform all the functionality of an OS running desktop apps

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          • M Marc Firth

            web is too slow to perform all the functionality of an OS running desktop apps

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            Caslen
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            Still doesn't make sense...

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              • M Marc Firth

                I'm just reading the Google Chrome OS article that was in today's daily news (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html[^]). I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work" And there's another problem. At the moment the web is too slow to be an OS. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web - but I also understand that there are some things that should stay on the desktop. All my media design apps, for example.

                Neonlight

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                realJSOP
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                Marc Firth wrote:

                I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web

                That's fine I guess if you want a less-than-rich interface and to pay through the nose because just using your system has exceeded your "free" bandwidth allotment from your ISP. A web-based OS is the next best thing to stupid.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                • C Caslen

                  Still doesn't make sense...

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  That's OK, it won't stop the Web 2-Point-Blow retards from mixing things up! Web OS is the new Hydrogen Laser! (yeah, that makes about as much sense!)

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                  • C Caslen

                    Still doesn't make sense...

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                    Marc Firth
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                    basically moving everything onto the net is a nice idea but taking into account current bandwidth capabilities in the majority of homes around the world, it seems it'll be too slow for everyday use. Does the that make more sense. If you ever used remote desktop or similar to someone with a slow internet connection you might get an idea.

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                    • M Marc Firth

                      basically moving everything onto the net is a nice idea but taking into account current bandwidth capabilities in the majority of homes around the world, it seems it'll be too slow for everyday use. Does the that make more sense. If you ever used remote desktop or similar to someone with a slow internet connection you might get an idea.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      Ok but was there a claim anywhere in the article that all applications should be moved to web? It merely said that "All web-based applications will automatically work". Some web-based applications I can think of:- 1. Mint 2. Google docs 3. Salesforce ... You can not make a device driver work over the web obviously and it is not suggested in the article that they are attempting to do that. I am just confused how you made that drastic conclusion.

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                      • R realJSOP

                        Marc Firth wrote:

                        I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web

                        That's fine I guess if you want a less-than-rich interface and to pay through the nose because just using your system has exceeded your "free" bandwidth allotment from your ISP. A web-based OS is the next best thing to stupid.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Christian Graus
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                        How does a web based OS work ? What do I use to connect to the web with, if my OS is online ?

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Ok but was there a claim anywhere in the article that all applications should be moved to web? It merely said that "All web-based applications will automatically work". Some web-based applications I can think of:- 1. Mint 2. Google docs 3. Salesforce ... You can not make a device driver work over the web obviously and it is not suggested in the article that they are attempting to do that. I am just confused how you made that drastic conclusion.

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                          Marc Firth
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                          I didn't mean the whole OS (i.e. drivers and such) - just all the programs you run. "For application developers, the web is the platform" I just couldn't think of a better word - didn't realise it would provoke such a reaction...   :)

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                            Marc Firth wrote:

                            I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web

                            That's fine I guess if you want a less-than-rich interface and to pay through the nose because just using your system has exceeded your "free" bandwidth allotment from your ISP. A web-based OS is the next best thing to stupid.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            NormDroid
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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            A web-based OS is the next best thing to stupid.

                            I couldn't agree more. What do you do when you broadband connection goes belly up? Basically your left standing with your finger firmly inserted bewteen your arse cheeks.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              How does a web based OS work ? What do I use to connect to the web with, if my OS is online ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              leppie
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              What do I use to connect to the web with, if my OS is online ?

                              Network boot, over the internet :)

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                              • C Caslen

                                Still doesn't make sense...

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                                simply put: Everything that comes from the Internet has a progress bar on it. Get it? So, the web is good for: * Updating your desktop applications (there's a progress bar there) * Downloading files (another progress bar) * Showing you web pages (some browsers have progress bars) * Playing games (with lags of 50 milliseconds or so) * Watching videos is slow-motion * Text files, like HTML (some of them don't need progress bars) The web IS NOT good for: * Developing GUIs (takes forever to load iamges, fonts and other graphical objects, and JavaScript/DOM/XUL or whatever else google has, puh-lease!) * Storing data (takes forever to read or write anything) * Storing/loading applications (again JavaScript; and loading times would be infinite) * Multimedia applications * Privacy (put everything online, and what do you have? haxxors rule!)

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                                • M Marc Firth

                                  I'm just reading the Google Chrome OS article that was in today's daily news (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html[^]). I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work" And there's another problem. At the moment the web is too slow to be an OS. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web - but I also understand that there are some things that should stay on the desktop. All my media design apps, for example.

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                                  Dan_Martin
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                                  I don't think it is designed to work with "all applications". At least not at the moment. I think it is designed to work with common, lightweight tasks such as web-browsing (well, obviously!), email, social networking and video/audio streaming. It won't be able to replace traditional applications for real productivity tasks. When I'm at home I use my computer for nothing more than the above, and I don't think I'm in the minority either. If they can make that quicker and easier to do I think they will have success.

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                                  • M Marc Firth

                                    I didn't mean the whole OS (i.e. drivers and such) - just all the programs you run. "For application developers, the web is the platform" I just couldn't think of a better word - didn't realise it would provoke such a reaction...   :)

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    Marc Firth wrote:

                                    For application developers, the web is the platform

                                    Ok, I see how you made that conclusion.:) For many LOB applications, that statement is actually true. But I will not generalize it saying that all apps should be built that way.

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                                    • M Marc Firth

                                      I'm just reading the Google Chrome OS article that was in today's daily news (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html[^]). I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work" And there's another problem. At the moment the web is too slow to be an OS. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web - but I also understand that there are some things that should stay on the desktop. All my media design apps, for example.

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                                      • M Marc Firth

                                        I'm just reading the Google Chrome OS article that was in today's daily news (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html[^]). I particularly like the line that says, "All web-based applications will automatically work" And there's another problem. At the moment the web is too slow to be an OS. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of moving as much as possible to the web - but I also understand that there are some things that should stay on the desktop. All my media design apps, for example.

                                        Neonlight

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Marc Firth wrote:

                                        All web-based applications will automatically work

                                        Ahh hahahaha haha...no, wait: HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA... <wipes tears from eyes>

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Marc Firth wrote:

                                          All web-based applications will automatically work

                                          Ahh hahahaha haha...no, wait: HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA... <wipes tears from eyes>

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          Marc Firth
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                                          Glad you agree :laugh:

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