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  • D Daniel Vaughan

    Excellent. Thanks for the link. No green card yet.

    Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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    Corporal Agarn
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    An employer might be able to help with a visa, if you find a job before the move. Length of stay is a factor. Good luck. P.S. I am too far north to help with a warm location.

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      You what??? Have you been down 3rd recently? Have you walked along Ocean in the morning and tried to avoid the homeless people that the rest of LA just dumps there? Yes, Santa Monica should be a really great place but I'd choose La Jolla to the south or Carmel/Monterey to the north or, better still, anywhere in Marin County (Tiburon is the best place). btw: Marin a great place to live with easy access to San Francisco which has a large financial district.

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      Dalek Dave
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      Marina Del Rey is nice. We lived on Admiral Avenue, just near the Marina Expressway and Lincol Bld, so easy to get everywhere. I loved Venice. But Malibu is ony 30mins up the road.

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      • C Corporal Agarn

        An employer might be able to help with a visa, if you find a job before the move. Length of stay is a factor. Good luck. P.S. I am too far north to help with a warm location.

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        Daniel Vaughan
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        For sure. Thanks djj.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Santa Monica, Los Angeles. Great Climate, Near the ocean, Close to LA, Close to Venice Beach, Low Crime Rate, and fairly civilised. (Just down the road from Marina Del Rey, which is a beautiful place too.)

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          California?? *High unemployment rate (>11%) *Bankrupt government with a banana republic style of politics *Second highest state taxation *Crumbling infrastructure (has amongst the worst roads in the union, even beats MO, and we have sh?? roads!) *Even now property is exorbitantly expensive unless you prefer to live in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. *If you're job is paying less than say $180k p/a, expect to be poor. *Ranked worst state to do business in (I'll have to find the link) due to high taxes and red tape. And yes, businesses are leaving. A great place to visit, a lousy place to live. There's a few escapees around this part of the union with no intentions of moving back. It's a beautiful place to be sure, but even that wasn't enough to keep them there.

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          • M MidwestLimey

            California?? *High unemployment rate (>11%) *Bankrupt government with a banana republic style of politics *Second highest state taxation *Crumbling infrastructure (has amongst the worst roads in the union, even beats MO, and we have sh?? roads!) *Even now property is exorbitantly expensive unless you prefer to live in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. *If you're job is paying less than say $180k p/a, expect to be poor. *Ranked worst state to do business in (I'll have to find the link) due to high taxes and red tape. And yes, businesses are leaving. A great place to visit, a lousy place to live. There's a few escapees around this part of the union with no intentions of moving back. It's a beautiful place to be sure, but even that wasn't enough to keep them there.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            MidwestLimey wrote:

            There's a few escapees

            Many (we included) are now in Arizona, only a 400 mile drive to Santa Monica; all on one freeway :-D .

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            • D Daniel Vaughan

              My wife and I are entertaining the possibility of relocating to the US for a while. We are looking for a warm climate, near the ocean, and low crime. If anyone has any suggestions or recommendations regarding a nice area, I’d appreciate hearing about it.

              Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              I'll second San Diego (if you can afford it) and the Carolinas. But one gets earthquakes and the other gets hurricanes. We came to Phoenix when we couldn't afford SoCal any longer.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I'll second San Diego (if you can afford it) and the Carolinas. But one gets earthquakes and the other gets hurricanes. We came to Phoenix when we couldn't afford SoCal any longer.

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                MidwestLimey
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                I quite like Arizona. Was visiting Tucson last year. The desert has a beauty all it's own.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  I'll second San Diego (if you can afford it) and the Carolinas. But one gets earthquakes and the other gets hurricanes. We came to Phoenix when we couldn't afford SoCal any longer.

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                  Daniel Vaughan
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                  Thanks for responding. San Diego seems a popular choice. I see from your profile you’re originally from Boston (MA). How would you compare that area to San Diego?

                  Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                  • D Daniel Vaughan

                    My wife and I are entertaining the possibility of relocating to the US for a while. We are looking for a warm climate, near the ocean, and low crime. If anyone has any suggestions or recommendations regarding a nice area, I’d appreciate hearing about it.

                    Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    Be aware that the California coast is very expensive. Even places like Carlsbad, north of San Diego, has shot up in price. I like Southern California except for the traffic, crowds and that the state is run by idiots. Since I left in 1987, it's just gotten worse. If you don't mind living a little inland, Ventura county northwest of Los Angeles is very nice (I lived in Simi Valley for a summer and liked it, up to a point [the traffic and cost of living drive me nuts, which is largely why I left So Cal in the first place].) One thing to be aware of is that Southern California is built on a desert. I grew up in the US northeast and never quite adjusted to that aspect of California (I lived in Arizona too and never quite got used to that.) If you want green, you need to look on the east and southern coasts. If you don't mind humidity (I hate it), the gulf coast states are for you. If you don't mind winters being a tad cooler and weather being more unpredictable, Northern California is beautiful; Monterey, Santa Cruz, Marin County. San Francisco is nice, albeit expensive and run by people who make the rest of California politicians look like geniuses.

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                    • M MidwestLimey

                      I quite like Arizona. Was visiting Tucson last year. The desert has a beauty all it's own.

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                      Daniel Vaughan
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                      Definitely. Are there many expats where you are MidwestLimey? We are looking for something a little closer to the sea for a change.

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                      • D Daniel Vaughan

                        Thanks for responding. San Diego seems a popular choice. I see from your profile you’re originally from Boston (MA). How would you compare that area to San Diego?

                        Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                        MidwestLimey
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                        I have friends in NC who left Boston to escape the winters and property prices. Essentially despite both having good incomes they couldn't afford to buy a decent house which they wanted to do after having a kid. Boston is another great place to visit, but not so much to live if you have a family. I will attest that the summers are pleasantly mild and the autumn absolutley beautiful up there. However the winter lasts half the year. Not my words, thiers :D

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                        • J Joe Woodbury

                          Be aware that the California coast is very expensive. Even places like Carlsbad, north of San Diego, has shot up in price. I like Southern California except for the traffic, crowds and that the state is run by idiots. Since I left in 1987, it's just gotten worse. If you don't mind living a little inland, Ventura county northwest of Los Angeles is very nice (I lived in Simi Valley for a summer and liked it, up to a point [the traffic and cost of living drive me nuts, which is largely why I left So Cal in the first place].) One thing to be aware of is that Southern California is built on a desert. I grew up in the US northeast and never quite adjusted to that aspect of California (I lived in Arizona too and never quite got used to that.) If you want green, you need to look on the east and southern coasts. If you don't mind humidity (I hate it), the gulf coast states are for you. If you don't mind winters being a tad cooler and weather being more unpredictable, Northern California is beautiful; Monterey, Santa Cruz, Marin County. San Francisco is nice, albeit expensive and run by people who make the rest of California politicians look like geniuses.

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                          Daniel Vaughan
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                          Thanks Joe, that’s very interesting. Northern California does look green. I notice that the climate in San Francisco, while temperate, rarely reaches more than 70F (21C). Seems like most people commenting prefer the west coast.

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                          • D Daniel Vaughan

                            Definitely. Are there many expats where you are MidwestLimey? We are looking for something a little closer to the sea for a change.

                            Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                            MidwestLimey
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                            I'm 900 miles from the Atlantic and 700 miles from the Gulf in one of the 'flyover' states. The advantage of being in a medium sized (2m odd) metro in the middle is that the earnings are above average, cost of living below average and housing cheap while still have access to most of the amenities of civilization. Taxes are also fairly low, and motoring is cheap. I'm also a 2h flight from the east coast and gulf, or 3-4h from the west coast and southwest, I can essentially get anywhere easily. Virtually anywhere I could move to in the US (let alone back to Europe) would require me taking a cut in my standard of living. We also have some fine vineyards along the Missouri river. On the other hand the summers are hot and humid (35C and 40-50% humidity is the norm, several 40C+ days are typical) and winters cold (last year was it got down to -18C, was below -10C for most of a week) and the landscape isn't that pretty. And God forbid you suffer from allergies, because believe me you WILL suffer.

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                            • M MidwestLimey

                              I have friends in NC who left Boston to escape the winters and property prices. Essentially despite both having good incomes they couldn't afford to buy a decent house which they wanted to do after having a kid. Boston is another great place to visit, but not so much to live if you have a family. I will attest that the summers are pleasantly mild and the autumn absolutley beautiful up there. However the winter lasts half the year. Not my words, thiers :D

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                              Daniel Vaughan
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                              It sounds like there is a lot of property price variation. I wonder if property prices have fallen much in places like Boston since the crisis. Yes, we are after a warm temperate climate, so it may not be for us.

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                              • D Daniel Vaughan

                                My wife and I are entertaining the possibility of relocating to the US for a while. We are looking for a warm climate, near the ocean, and low crime. If anyone has any suggestions or recommendations regarding a nice area, I’d appreciate hearing about it.

                                Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                                Snowman58
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                                Myrtle Beach on the east coast; Corpus Christi in Tx; Santa Barbara on the west coast. Also check out Carpentaria (just so of SBA but much cheaper). I lived in both SBA and Carp and spent time in MB and CC. I can highly recommend them if you can afford southern CA. SBA is a very active high tech area with lots of new startups and well funded Univ. research programs. Instead of San Diego, consider going across the border into Mx, (where I currently live). Much cheaper and forget all the bad news in the papers. It's no worse than LA, but shootings in LA are not news! And you don't need a green card to work in the US, just ask a Mexican! OK, maybe you need the card if you want a real salary. :)

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                                • D Daniel Vaughan

                                  Thanks for responding. San Diego seems a popular choice. I see from your profile you’re originally from Boston (MA). How would you compare that area to San Diego?

                                  Daniel Vaughan Blog: DanielVaughan.Orpius.com

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  Very similar while remaining completely different. :-D Both have a small-city feel and you can walk around downtown. Boston can be -30F with six feet of snow or it can be +100F with 100% humidity. X| And just for variety, once in a while a hurricane comes through. San Diego is pretty much +70F all the time, but the "June gloom" can get depressing. The earthquakes aren't quite as bad as in L.A. The beaches are better in San Diego, especially if you don't want to wear a suit.

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                                  • M MidwestLimey

                                    I'm 900 miles from the Atlantic and 700 miles from the Gulf in one of the 'flyover' states. The advantage of being in a medium sized (2m odd) metro in the middle is that the earnings are above average, cost of living below average and housing cheap while still have access to most of the amenities of civilization. Taxes are also fairly low, and motoring is cheap. I'm also a 2h flight from the east coast and gulf, or 3-4h from the west coast and southwest, I can essentially get anywhere easily. Virtually anywhere I could move to in the US (let alone back to Europe) would require me taking a cut in my standard of living. We also have some fine vineyards along the Missouri river. On the other hand the summers are hot and humid (35C and 40-50% humidity is the norm, several 40C+ days are typical) and winters cold (last year was it got down to -18C, was below -10C for most of a week) and the landscape isn't that pretty. And God forbid you suffer from allergies, because believe me you WILL suffer.

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                                    Daniel Vaughan
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                                    Yes, we’ve found the cost of living in Switzerland to be very high. Is there a lot of variation with the cost of living, food prices etc across the states? It sounds like you are actually close to everywhere. I imagine that flights within the US are not expensive also, due to there being lots of competition? The weather sounds very much like where we used to live in Canberra Australia.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Santa Monica, Los Angeles. Great Climate, Near the ocean, Close to LA, Close to Venice Beach, Low Crime Rate, and fairly civilised. (Just down the road from Marina Del Rey, which is a beautiful place too.)

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      Low Crime Rate

                                      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It wasn't safe to walk on the beach unarmed 30 years ago; nothing's improved, except the number of laws against actually using the beach for anything fun.

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                                      • S Snowman58

                                        Myrtle Beach on the east coast; Corpus Christi in Tx; Santa Barbara on the west coast. Also check out Carpentaria (just so of SBA but much cheaper). I lived in both SBA and Carp and spent time in MB and CC. I can highly recommend them if you can afford southern CA. SBA is a very active high tech area with lots of new startups and well funded Univ. research programs. Instead of San Diego, consider going across the border into Mx, (where I currently live). Much cheaper and forget all the bad news in the papers. It's no worse than LA, but shootings in LA are not news! And you don't need a green card to work in the US, just ask a Mexican! OK, maybe you need the card if you want a real salary. :)

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                                        Daniel Vaughan
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                                        Thanks for your tips Snowman. Is SBA Santa Barbera? SBA sounds interesting with its high tech industry. Do you live in Mx, and work in the US?

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Very similar while remaining completely different. :-D Both have a small-city feel and you can walk around downtown. Boston can be -30F with six feet of snow or it can be +100F with 100% humidity. X| And just for variety, once in a while a hurricane comes through. San Diego is pretty much +70F all the time, but the "June gloom" can get depressing. The earthquakes aren't quite as bad as in L.A. The beaches are better in San Diego, especially if you don't want to wear a suit.

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                                          Daniel Vaughan
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                                          San Diego sounds great. The allergy thing could be a problem. It sounds like the hay fever gets you? I find I am affected in some places and not in others. In Australia, UK and Geneva Switzerland, not at all. But in Prague, I suffer badly. Obviously there must be a particular pollen in Prague. So earthquakes or hurricanes. hmmm... :)

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