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(WPF) If Xaml That powerful? in real? [modified]

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    cppwxwidgetsss
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    HI ALL I was considering and trying to Import sophisticated Designs as Xaml in a Project of WPF I was Working with AI and also Tried MS Expression Design ========== 1) about AI I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made ========== 2) about Expression Design It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design ============= Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs ================ I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong and if I had mistake in part 1 and/or 2 tell me if there are other tools, plug-ins , and etc Thank you Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

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      HI ALL I was considering and trying to Import sophisticated Designs as Xaml in a Project of WPF I was Working with AI and also Tried MS Expression Design ========== 1) about AI I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made ========== 2) about Expression Design It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design ============= Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs ================ I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong and if I had mistake in part 1 and/or 2 tell me if there are other tools, plug-ins , and etc Thank you Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

      modified on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:28 AM

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      cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

      I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made

      Expression imports AI files. You need to break them into components to create controls. It doesn't just magically create UI for you. Also, by default it creates a PNG, not XAML, and you should play with the options to create XAML as you need it.

      cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

      It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design

      Expression creates XAML, XAML has gradients, what other effects were you hoping for ?

      cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

      I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs

      A professional design should not be complicated. I've written several programs with WPF, and the UIs on them all are excellent. We had a graphic designer create designs for us in AI, and for one program I skinned with bitmaps, but nowadays I export XAML from AI files. Our designer is given total freedom, which is often a lot of work for me, in terms of non standard shapes etc, but I have NEVER had any trouble turning his screenshots into UI that is identical or better.

      cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

      Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

      It's a free website and you posted while the USA ( where most users are ) was asleep. If I was home in Australia, you'd have got a reply. It's now 6 am and I am up early. If you want instant answers, find someone in your timezone you can pay to be on call. Otherwise, you just have to wait until someone replies.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        HI ALL I was considering and trying to Import sophisticated Designs as Xaml in a Project of WPF I was Working with AI and also Tried MS Expression Design ========== 1) about AI I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made ========== 2) about Expression Design It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design ============= Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs ================ I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong and if I had mistake in part 1 and/or 2 tell me if there are other tools, plug-ins , and etc Thank you Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

        modified on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:28 AM

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        cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

        Am I banned to write message?

        Unfortunately, no...

        cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

        Does anybody see my post?

        Unfortunately, yes. BTW, set the right country in your profile. It's REAL obvious you're not from the US. As to your question, you can do pretty much anything you can dream up with WPF. You just have to learn how, and there are no shortcuts in the learning process.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          HI ALL I was considering and trying to Import sophisticated Designs as Xaml in a Project of WPF I was Working with AI and also Tried MS Expression Design ========== 1) about AI I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made ========== 2) about Expression Design It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design ============= Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs ================ I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong and if I had mistake in part 1 and/or 2 tell me if there are other tools, plug-ins , and etc Thank you Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

          modified on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:28 AM

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          cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

          Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs

          That is not correct - WPF allows you to produce extremely professional designs, perhaps it's your lack of artistic ability that's getting in the way.

          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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            cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

            Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs

            That is not correct - WPF allows you to produce extremely professional designs, perhaps it's your lack of artistic ability that's getting in the way.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            Christian Graus
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            perhaps it's your lack of artistic ability that's getting in the way.

            LOL - as I said, we have a graphic designer, if we didn't, that would sure be our main problem....

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              HI ALL I was considering and trying to Import sophisticated Designs as Xaml in a Project of WPF I was Working with AI and also Tried MS Expression Design ========== 1) about AI I tried to use a Plug-in to export Xaml files, but when you have complicated images it just change that image to a simple image , I had a 3D effect on my Design , but it was simplified by the plug-in i used and just a very simple image had been made ========== 2) about Expression Design It didn't have any Effect, the only thing that you have is Gradient, as I saw and it is not enough to have a professional design ============= Conclusion: I think The Xaml or at least Xaml Generator are not that powerful to produce complicated, professional designs ================ I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong and if I had mistake in part 1 and/or 2 tell me if there are other tools, plug-ins , and etc Thank you Am I banned to write message? Does anybody see my post? or is there any problem that I don't get any answer?

              modified on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:28 AM

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              Mark Salsbery
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              cppwxwidgetsss wrote:

              I want to tell me if it is really rigt or wrong

              I'm going with wrong. XAML and XAML generators do NOT produce "complicated, professional designs"...designers do. In fact, nothing in your post has anything to do with XAML... You may want to try out Expression Blend 3[^], which supposedly now imports PSD/AI files preserving the layers and allowing editing in Blend.

              Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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