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  • D Dalek Dave

    Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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    Rage
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    css, definitely. Unless you are playing with tables to some extent.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      <TD BGCOLOR=WHITE WIDTH=590 VALIGN=TOP><H2><TEXT="#ff0000">About Bellcross...</TEXT></H2></TD>

      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

      modified on Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:13 AM

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      Stuart Dootson
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      Heh - you editted that, you sneaky guy - I saw <FONT=MAROON> in Chrome, went to reply "Where's the TEXT element" and saw a TEXT tag on the reply page. Open the page in FireFox - see a TEXT tag - my reaction "What magic's the Dalek pulled to get Chrome and FF to display different text?" Of course, I refresh the Chrome page and see the TEXT tag - it was just a race condition all along. No wonder concurrency's difficult.

      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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      • D Dario Solera

        Maybe it's time to switch to XHTML+CSS, i.e. real men's web languages? :-D

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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        Stuart Dootson
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        Get with the cool kids and use HTML5 (I don't count myself as cool - I've barely graduated to HTML 4).

        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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        • P peterchen

          Dario Solera wrote:

          XHTML+CSS

          Nah, that's commitee stuff. real men use <blink>

          Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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          phannon86
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          peterchen wrote:

          real men use <blink>

          Gaaaaahhh, my eyes!

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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          • D Dario Solera

            I prefer .

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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            peterchen
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            I can already smell the testosterone!

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              peterchen wrote:

              real men use <blink>

              Gaaaaahhh, my eyes!

              He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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              Dario Solera
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              It doesn't work anymore!?

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                You're closing a <TEXT> tag with a </FONT> tag? :(

                I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                Dalek Dave
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                OOPS! Force of habit again!   Let me edit that :)

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  Heh - you editted that, you sneaky guy - I saw <FONT=MAROON> in Chrome, went to reply "Where's the TEXT element" and saw a TEXT tag on the reply page. Open the page in FireFox - see a TEXT tag - my reaction "What magic's the Dalek pulled to get Chrome and FF to display different text?" Of course, I refresh the Chrome page and see the TEXT tag - it was just a race condition all along. No wonder concurrency's difficult.

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  I am a Knave, Sir

                  ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    *KICK*

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                    • S Stuart Dootson

                      Get with the cool kids and use HTML5 (I don't count myself as cool - I've barely graduated to HTML 4).

                      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                      Stuart Dootson wrote:

                      (I don't count myself as cool - I've barely graduated to HTML 4).

                      That's "lukewarm"?

                      Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
                      My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        I need my arse kicking?

                        You certainly do - you should be using CSS and not relying on the FONT tag or the TEXT tag.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                          AndyInUK
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                          Ye you definitely need a arse kicked and you should be placed over the ice plates and should use hunter to give you a good beating untill you cry for a mercy.. :laugh:

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                            Stuart Dootson wrote:

                            (I don't count myself as cool - I've barely graduated to HTML 4).

                            That's "lukewarm"?

                            Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
                            My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                            Stuart Dootson
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                            I'm not hot, I'm not cool - you must be right :-)

                            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              The font element was deprecated in HTML 4.01, and is not supported in XHTML 1.0 Strict DTD. HTML <font> Tag[^]\ It might be time for an old dog to learn a new trick. What's a deprecated tag / attribute?[^]

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                              • S Stuart Dootson

                                I'm not hot, I'm not cool - you must be right :-)

                                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                Just slip into a pair o' pink tight pants and comb your hair into retro style, wear a 70s jacket and a hollywood style very large sun shades (should cover half the face, fake gem stones on the sides will fetch bonus points). Then, you'd just look cool. :cool: Did I mention about the rubber gum boots?

                                It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                  Just slip into a pair o' pink tight pants and comb your hair into retro style, wear a 70s jacket and a hollywood style very large sun shades (should cover half the face, fake gem stones on the sides will fetch bonus points). Then, you'd just look cool. :cool: Did I mention about the rubber gum boots?

                                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  I always feel an affinity with Disco Stu[^] (the name thing, and my hair would look like his if I allowed it to grow - my nickname always used to be Art (Garfunkel)[^]). Would that be :cool: ?

                                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                    I always feel an affinity with Disco Stu[^] (the name thing, and my hair would look like his if I allowed it to grow - my nickname always used to be Art (Garfunkel)[^]). Would that be :cool: ?

                                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    Walking on a thin string, not knowing which side would the wind push you into - Geek/Nerd? The hair confirms nerd characteristics. Quoting reference from Simpsons Wikia - again, a strict nerd characteristic. :-D

                                    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                      Walking on a thin string, not knowing which side would the wind push you into - Geek/Nerd? The hair confirms nerd characteristics. Quoting reference from Simpsons Wikia - again, a strict nerd characteristic. :-D

                                      It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                      Stuart Dootson
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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                      The hair confirms nerd characteristics

                                      As I said, IF I let it grow that long...I have a strict #2[^] these days

                                      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                        The hair confirms nerd characteristics

                                        As I said, IF I let it grow that long...I have a strict #2[^] these days

                                        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        Ugh... I should have read it right. :-O

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                                          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                          Use CSS. Seriously. FYI: If you do any web design, Stylizer[^] is one tool you really should know about. :cool:

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