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  • P Pierre Leclercq

    Cuda rocks!

    You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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    kmg365
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    How so?

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    • K kmg365

      I thought CUDA was the only way to access the GPU, what did you use?

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      Lost User
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      OpenGL, but as Pierre Leclercq said, it's not really a clean way to do it

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        What kind of SAS do you mean? Anyway, just "using the GPU" is easy, CUDA somehow manages to make it harder then it is with OpenGL and a nice shader.. well maybe that's just me.

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        SAS-statistical analysis software. click[^]

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          Stuart Dootson wrote:

          reluctance to answer

          Time moves alot faster than in other forums. It's the second one.

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          Stuart Dootson
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          kmg365 wrote:

          It's the second one.

          Kinda thought it might be ;) All I know about SAS is that my cousin used to be a SAS contractor.

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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            kmg365 wrote:

            It's the second one.

            Kinda thought it might be ;) All I know about SAS is that my cousin used to be a SAS contractor.

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Stuart Dootson wrote:

            my cousin used to be a SAS contractor

            Made a lot of money and went insane.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              Stuart Dootson wrote:

              my cousin used to be a SAS contractor

              Made a lot of money and went insane.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Stuart Dootson
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              Ah, you know him...

              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              • K kmg365

                Or is planning to use it. Just wondering.

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                No but I am planning to use OpenCL. I am not really sure how much they differ.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  No but I am planning to use OpenCL. I am not really sure how much they differ.

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                  martin_hughes
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                  At a guess, one's called CUDA and the other OpenCL.

                  print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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                    At a guess, one's called CUDA and the other OpenCL.

                    print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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                    OpenCL should work on ATIs as well

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                    • K kmg365

                      Or is planning to use it. Just wondering.

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                      It's used by Google in their search engines. I have an interesting post about GPU's and Amdahls's Law on Nvidia: How can CUDA break Amdahl's Law?[^] If you are thinking of using CUDA, you might want to read the post first, it may or may not help your team make a decision to use CUDA. The truth about CUDA is revealed. ~TheArch :cool:

                      modified on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:44 PM

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                      • L Lost User

                        Sure, but I don't really like the API. Someone make LINQ to CUDA please? :)

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                        If you can find me the CUDA Language Spec (Op Code) I will make a IL -> CUDA IL assemble linker for it. I looked around for it a few weeks ago, but could not find it. The alternitive it to use DirectML, but I have no idea when it's comming out?!?! ~TheArch

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                          OpenCL should work on ATIs as well

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                          DirectML(sp?) will do it also. A mathematics lib for in the next version of DirectX.

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                            If you can find me the CUDA Language Spec (Op Code) I will make a IL -> CUDA IL assemble linker for it. I looked around for it a few weeks ago, but could not find it. The alternitive it to use DirectML, but I have no idea when it's comming out?!?! ~TheArch

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                            Like this? PTX specs[^] Sadly it doesn't seem to specify the binary encoding..

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                              Sure, but I don't really like the API. Someone make LINQ to CUDA please? :)

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                              Daniel Grunwald
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                              Something like 'Brahma'[^]?

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                              • D Daniel Grunwald

                                Something like 'Brahma'[^]?

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                                Lost User
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                                Yea I tried that some time ago, but while it is nice it only works on 32bit mode and/because it uses DirectX. It's convenient, but the performance is not great, and in 64bit mode it just dies because the DirectX dll's die (MS's fault) which makes it impossible to use it in a plugin for Paint.NET without making it multi-process but that would completely kill the performance. And it seems a bit abandoned.

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                                  Like this? PTX specs[^] Sadly it doesn't seem to specify the binary encoding..

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Good enough for goverment work. I will start in the am. ~TheArch

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                                  • D Daniel Grunwald

                                    Something like 'Brahma'[^]?

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                                    Daniel Grunwald wrote:

                                    Something like 'Brahma'[^]?

                                    Kind of. There is also a .NET plug in for CUDA. You don't have to wite C code to get to the GPU. I have not tested it though. It can be found on the Nvidia CUDA applications portal.

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                                      Good enough for goverment work. I will start in the am. ~TheArch

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                                      Sweet, seems a bit large for a 1 man project though, need any help? :)

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                                        Sweet, seems a bit large for a 1 man project though, need any help? :)

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                                        Lost User
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                                        :thumbsup:

                                        harold aptroot wrote:

                                        Sweet, seems a bit large for a 1 man project though, need any help?

                                        That would be great. Pick your flavor! Prototype AutoParalizer Archiecture:

                                        1. Tool to parse the target .NET IL. (Reflect onto IL using Relflection.Emit)
                                        2. Assembly Table Linker (HashTable to translate the IL into PSX)
                                        3. CUDA integration:
                                        a. Generate parallel mini functions in CUDA from #2
                                        b. Markup .NET IL with 3.b
                                        4. Recompile everyithing 3.a & 3.b

                                        'Did I miss something?' ~TheArch

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                                          :thumbsup:

                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          Sweet, seems a bit large for a 1 man project though, need any help?

                                          That would be great. Pick your flavor! Prototype AutoParalizer Archiecture:

                                          1. Tool to parse the target .NET IL. (Reflect onto IL using Relflection.Emit)
                                          2. Assembly Table Linker (HashTable to translate the IL into PSX)
                                          3. CUDA integration:
                                          a. Generate parallel mini functions in CUDA from #2
                                          b. Markup .NET IL with 3.b
                                          4. Recompile everyithing 3.a & 3.b

                                          'Did I miss something?' ~TheArch

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                                          Hm I dunno, but some observations: - MSIL uses a read-only* stack so essentially it's equivalent to SSA (source: cr88192) - Due to that there is no direct mapping of MSIL onto PTX, at the very least you need register allocation, but since it's SSA the interference graph will be chordal, so graph colouring has a polynomial running time (so optimal register usage isn't even hard) - local/shared/shared-at-other-level/etc could be a problem, defaulting to global-ish is extremely slow but determining where it should go is probably hard (sounds like escape analysis to me, which is hard) - Different kinds of loads/stores, might take some additional analysis to figure out which one to use (mov vs ld vs tex etc) - There is no GC in CUDA - but classes wouldn't be all that useful there anyway, seems ok to me to limit it to structs - There is probably more to this than might be seen at a first glance.. - ???? - Profit * ok let me clarify, I don't really mean that it doesn't write to the stack - I mean that it doesn't overwrite things deep down in the stack, it just pushes thing onto it. Well except in some rare and creepy cases anyway.

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