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  • N NormDroid

    Had an idea in bed last night. If most roadside bombs are detonated by Mobile/Cell phones why not give the troops cell phone jammers whilst out on patrol?

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    Russell Jones
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    Because the moment you do that someone will trigger the bomb by waiting for the phone signal to be jammed.

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      Because the moment you do that someone will trigger the bomb by waiting for the phone signal to be jammed.

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      Michael Schubert
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      :confused: How can they trigger the bomb when the signal is being jammed?

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        :confused: How can they trigger the bomb when the signal is being jammed?

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        The idea is to use the jamming signal as the detenation signal.


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          :confused: How can they trigger the bomb when the signal is being jammed?

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          Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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          Jamming is flooding the spectrum with higher "volume", so that could be used as the trigger instead. ie, Trigger off the jamming signal, rather than off the mobile signal being jammed. Iain.

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            :confused: How can they trigger the bomb when the signal is being jammed?

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            Russell Jones
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            When you place the bomb you start a phone call to the device. This leaves it in the armed state. If you put the hone down or someone jams the signal the thing goes off. Assuming that the only people with jamming devices are soldiers and that the network is pretty solid (this may be a problem) this would have the advantage that the bomb would go off when troops got within a certain distance. For a slightly more high tech response you could detect the jammer and then the device would detonate when a military jamming vehicle went past.

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            • R Russell Jones

              When you place the bomb you start a phone call to the device. This leaves it in the armed state. If you put the hone down or someone jams the signal the thing goes off. Assuming that the only people with jamming devices are soldiers and that the network is pretty solid (this may be a problem) this would have the advantage that the bomb would go off when troops got within a certain distance. For a slightly more high tech response you could detect the jammer and then the device would detonate when a military jamming vehicle went past.

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              Michael Schubert
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              OK, OK, I get it ;-) I'm glad you guys are not the ones building the bombs. I guess.

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              • R Russell Jones

                When you place the bomb you start a phone call to the device. This leaves it in the armed state. If you put the hone down or someone jams the signal the thing goes off. Assuming that the only people with jamming devices are soldiers and that the network is pretty solid (this may be a problem) this would have the advantage that the bomb would go off when troops got within a certain distance. For a slightly more high tech response you could detect the jammer and then the device would detonate when a military jamming vehicle went past.

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                __yash__
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                Russell Jones wrote:

                When you place the bomb you start a phone call to the device

                How long? Till some surveilance vehicle passes by?!?! I would think that these kind of people would simply be using the signal going to the speaker so that when the phone receives a call the speaker signal voltage trigers the payload.

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                • N NormDroid

                  Had an idea in bed last night. If most roadside bombs are detonated by Mobile/Cell phones why not give the troops cell phone jammers whilst out on patrol?

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                  Robert Surtees
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                  everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up. :suss:

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                  • R Robert Surtees

                    everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up. :suss:

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                    UserNameless
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                    Robert Surtees wrote:

                    everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up.

                    and should expect a call from their respective secret service agency :suss:

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                    • R Russell Jones

                      Because the moment you do that someone will trigger the bomb by waiting for the phone signal to be jammed.

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                      Anthony Mushrow
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                      Ah, but if the bomb was triggered by the jamming signal people would be further from the bomb when it was detonated. Unless this is a very special jamming signal that only works within a few meters.

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                      • R Robert Surtees

                        everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up. :suss:

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                        Russell Jones
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                        If I was at school now and did half the things I did at school all those years ago I'd be firmly locked up in Guantanamo for sure. These days the kids can't even play conkers without safety specs! I'm not sure how the aluminium tube based rocket with the "slightly faster burning than expected" propellant would go down.

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                        • N NormDroid

                          Had an idea in bed last night. If most roadside bombs are detonated by Mobile/Cell phones why not give the troops cell phone jammers whilst out on patrol?

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                          • R Robert Surtees

                            everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up. :suss:

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                            Lost User
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                            Even me? Thought I knew just enough :laugh:

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                              If I was at school now and did half the things I did at school all those years ago I'd be firmly locked up in Guantanamo for sure. These days the kids can't even play conkers without safety specs! I'm not sure how the aluminium tube based rocket with the "slightly faster burning than expected" propellant would go down.

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                              Jacquers
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                              Russell Jones wrote:

                              I'm not sure how the aluminium tube based rocket with the "slightly faster burning than expected" propellant would go down

                              That only happens when you point it in the wrong direction ;P

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                                Russell Jones wrote:

                                I'm not sure how the aluminium tube based rocket with the "slightly faster burning than expected" propellant would go down

                                That only happens when you point it in the wrong direction ;P

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                                Russell Jones
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                                Our implementation of the concept went in pretty much every direction. I don't think the direction that it was pointed in would have mad a great deal of difference

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                                • N NormDroid

                                  Had an idea in bed last night. If most roadside bombs are detonated by Mobile/Cell phones why not give the troops cell phone jammers whilst out on patrol?

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                                  BillWoodruff
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                                  Hi Norm, The insurgents in southern Thailand (the Yawi speaking Muslim Malay inhabitants in the provinces that once made up the old Malay Sultanate of Pattani which has been under Thai control for over 200 years) have switched to using walkie-talkies[^] to detonate their bombs after the Thai military frequently disconnected cell phone service, and after a program of forced registration of buying of prepaid sim cards was imposed. best, Bill

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                                  • N NormDroid

                                    Had an idea in bed last night. If most roadside bombs are detonated by Mobile/Cell phones why not give the troops cell phone jammers whilst out on patrol?

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    AFAIK they haven't been for several years. After we started using EW birds to mass dial every cell in range, blowing up a few bomb shops in the process, most of the bombers went back to old fashioned garage door opener (Line of sight IR) or hard wired remotes that weren't spoofable.

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                                    • M Michael Schubert

                                      OK, OK, I get it ;-) I'm glad you guys are not the ones building the bombs. I guess.

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                                      Skymir
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                                      Be very glad, programmers are lazy and hate to do things twice. Roadside bombs are inefficient and have to be repeated. It's not really a process we'd like to see 'optimized' though.

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                                      • R Robert Surtees

                                        everybody in this thread knows far too much about blowing things up. :suss:

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                                        Skymir
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                                        Any problem can be solved with the proper application of explosives.

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                                        knows far too much about

                                        How can you know too much about blowing things up?

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