Weight Loss
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Also, if you train your belly muscles, the muscles will tighten up, and make the belly flatter.
He won't be seeing those muscles if there is a layer of fat over them.
But when the fat goes
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
You need to use endurance exercise to burn the fat, diet will not do enough.
Technically no he doesn't. As long as he eats less calories than he expands in a day, he will lose weight. However, human body can also dissolve muscles for energy, not just fat, so exercising will help maximizing fat loss and minimize muscle loss. To the OP, I wasn't saying you shouldn't exercise, you definitely should if you want better and faster results. Plus being skinny doesn't mean being in great shape. If you haven't been exercising a lot, even if you lose weight and become skinny you still won't be able to run 3 miles, and that actually matters more than getting your body down to single digit body fat percentage.
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
Technically no he doesn't. As long as he eats less calories than he expands in a day, he will lose weight
The human body is an amazing thing. If you reduce your intake then you will initially loose weight, but then the body's metabolism starts to slow. Then you need to eat less [and so on]. Also, the body mass lost at this point will be the /wrong/ fats; I can't remember which way round it is and I can't be bothered to search. If you are overeating, sure reduce your intake. But for a normal diet, control the intake and then bring the exercise level upto and then over the intake. But the exercise does need to be endureance to ensure that all the muscle fat is burned away FIRST and that it turn forces the body fat to be burned. Low diet just uses up fat the other way.
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hopingToCode wrote:
I don't have a WII my brother does!
Well, configure him as a proxy, to do your running for you.
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But when the fat goes
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
ooooh that layer of fat's gonna be really hard to burn to show ripped abs. pretty much no oil, no fatty food, certainly not any pie!
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
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ooooh that layer of fat's gonna be really hard to burn to show ripped abs. pretty much no oil, no fatty food, certainly not any pie!
But I'll get there..maybe in 45345635623 years but I'll get there!
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
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over the past year I've lost close to 50lbs just from walking after work and very small changes in diet (mostly adding more fruits and veggies). The belly and the man boobs are the last to go. You will see weight-loss in your face and arms first.
Same here
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
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Same here
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
although being a year into this process...I can tell you that if you just keeping doing what you are doing, it will eventually come off. I'm finally to the point where my body's only real option is to burn belly fat and it is certainly starting to shrink. The other thing that I've noticed is that the weight seems to come off in bursts. I will weight the same weight for 2 months and then drop 10lbs the next month. It isn't a constant loss for me. kinda seems like my body doesn't want to let go of the weight until it is positive that I won't need it and at that point it waves goodbye. The one thing I've found important for me personally is to not set target goals and to not weigh myself more than once a week (its actually been about 2 months since I last weighed myself). There are 2 reasons for this. The first is that this has really been a lifestyle change for me and not really a "diet" (I've changed my diet but I don't consider myself to be dieting). I don't plan on ever going back to the way I used to be. It isn't so much about losing weight as it is about feeling better. My Doctor (mis)diagnosed "Acid Reflux disease" has cleared up completely since I started excercising. I don't feel like crap for the first 30-60mins of every day anymore. Etc. The second reason is that if I don't set goals and don't constantly weight myself, then I don't ever feel bad about screwing up. The most important thing about this process for me is feeling good about myself and missing goals or worrying about the twinkie I had yesterday just makes me want to quit and give up. sure there are gonna be setbacks along the way and there have been weeks that I've gained a pound or two but the important thing is not to let those weeks become consecutive. It allows me to splurge but not feel bad about it knowing that the short term isn't a priority.
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
There are already good suggestions above me, but I will add some more. First congrats on losing so much weight, at the very least it shows that you're serious about it which means you're already half way there. You just need more time. I myself have been trying to get in better shape for a year, and I must stress, it takes a frigging long time. Do not be discouraged if you do not see results fast enough. Chances are it took you a long time to put on this weight, and it will take you long time to get it off. Good news is, it's possible and except for a few genetic freaks everyone can do it given enough persistence. Before I go on I must say that being skinny and being athletic are two completely different things. I say this because people often confuse them and they are not the same. Being skinny means that you have low body fat percentage, but it doesn't mean that you also have a lot of muscle on you and it doesn't mean that you can do triathlons. Being athletic means you actually have muscle on you, you can actually do physical activity, you can bike, hike and run without feeling like you're about to have a heart attack. Although not common, there are skinny un-athletic people who look like a stick and have trouble lifting more than 50 pounds and there are slightly overweight athletic people (american football players is a good example). If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body. Most helpful thing you can do is start counting your calories. I know it sounds embarrassing for a man to count calories, after all, WE ARE FARKING MEN, RAWRRRRRRR. However, calories are everything. To put it simply, your body need certain number of calories throughout the day to survive. This number will vary on a number of factors such as gender, height, genetics and physical activity throughout the day. There are calculators on the web, they are all approximate but they should give you an idea where to shoot for. If you want to lose fat, you have to eat less calories than your body needs throughout a day. You have to be careful because if you eat too few calories you will also start to lose muscle mass along with fat (your body might shift into survival mode) and you might become one of those skinny un-athletic people wi
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
My experience has been that the belly is the last bit to go. Just keep going on the weight loss and it will start to reduce.
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There are already good suggestions above me, but I will add some more. First congrats on losing so much weight, at the very least it shows that you're serious about it which means you're already half way there. You just need more time. I myself have been trying to get in better shape for a year, and I must stress, it takes a frigging long time. Do not be discouraged if you do not see results fast enough. Chances are it took you a long time to put on this weight, and it will take you long time to get it off. Good news is, it's possible and except for a few genetic freaks everyone can do it given enough persistence. Before I go on I must say that being skinny and being athletic are two completely different things. I say this because people often confuse them and they are not the same. Being skinny means that you have low body fat percentage, but it doesn't mean that you also have a lot of muscle on you and it doesn't mean that you can do triathlons. Being athletic means you actually have muscle on you, you can actually do physical activity, you can bike, hike and run without feeling like you're about to have a heart attack. Although not common, there are skinny un-athletic people who look like a stick and have trouble lifting more than 50 pounds and there are slightly overweight athletic people (american football players is a good example). If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body. Most helpful thing you can do is start counting your calories. I know it sounds embarrassing for a man to count calories, after all, WE ARE FARKING MEN, RAWRRRRRRR. However, calories are everything. To put it simply, your body need certain number of calories throughout the day to survive. This number will vary on a number of factors such as gender, height, genetics and physical activity throughout the day. There are calculators on the web, they are all approximate but they should give you an idea where to shoot for. If you want to lose fat, you have to eat less calories than your body needs throughout a day. You have to be careful because if you eat too few calories you will also start to lose muscle mass along with fat (your body might shift into survival mode) and you might become one of those skinny un-athletic people wi
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
PS please forgive for any grammar and punctuation errors, I've already spent more time typing this than I should have. I guess I just feel passionately about the topic.
I can tell. I suppose at the moment going thorougth lack of motivation but heading back to gym tonight and hopefully will be able to do a good set. 21min HIIT and Abs.
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
Wow; 41 pounds (sorry; dumb American here). Like Chris said, you can't target specific body parts for weight loss. You just have to lose weight all over. Another thing that helps is resistance training (weightlifting). The idea here is to build muscle, which helps you metabolize more calories. In a sense, you are replacing weight from fat with weight from muscle. Done long enough, you gain muscle in a lot of the 'good' places and lose fat in the 'bad' ones, which goes quite a ways to improving your overall health and appearance.
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JazzJackRabbit wrote:
PS please forgive for any grammar and punctuation errors, I've already spent more time typing this than I should have. I guess I just feel passionately about the topic.
I can tell. I suppose at the moment going thorougth lack of motivation but heading back to gym tonight and hopefully will be able to do a good set. 21min HIIT and Abs.
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
Don't spend too much time on abs. I'm not saying you shouldn't do them, but if your stats are correct at 108 kilos, you've got a long way to go before you'll be seeing those. I'm 6 feet and, currently at 82 kilos, I can feel abs, they are there, but I still can't see them. I'm getting close though. Just another 10-15 kilos or so. I don't go to gym because of time limitations, I usually work out at home, but if you're going to gym, I'd recommend skipping weight machines et al, and go straight for weight training, deadlift and barbel squats. That's what I'd be doing if I had more time to actually go to gym. Weight machines are fine if you want to exercise a particular set of muscles that cannot be done with weight training, but weight training will give you better results at this stage.
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There are already good suggestions above me, but I will add some more. First congrats on losing so much weight, at the very least it shows that you're serious about it which means you're already half way there. You just need more time. I myself have been trying to get in better shape for a year, and I must stress, it takes a frigging long time. Do not be discouraged if you do not see results fast enough. Chances are it took you a long time to put on this weight, and it will take you long time to get it off. Good news is, it's possible and except for a few genetic freaks everyone can do it given enough persistence. Before I go on I must say that being skinny and being athletic are two completely different things. I say this because people often confuse them and they are not the same. Being skinny means that you have low body fat percentage, but it doesn't mean that you also have a lot of muscle on you and it doesn't mean that you can do triathlons. Being athletic means you actually have muscle on you, you can actually do physical activity, you can bike, hike and run without feeling like you're about to have a heart attack. Although not common, there are skinny un-athletic people who look like a stick and have trouble lifting more than 50 pounds and there are slightly overweight athletic people (american football players is a good example). If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body. Most helpful thing you can do is start counting your calories. I know it sounds embarrassing for a man to count calories, after all, WE ARE FARKING MEN, RAWRRRRRRR. However, calories are everything. To put it simply, your body need certain number of calories throughout the day to survive. This number will vary on a number of factors such as gender, height, genetics and physical activity throughout the day. There are calculators on the web, they are all approximate but they should give you an idea where to shoot for. If you want to lose fat, you have to eat less calories than your body needs throughout a day. You have to be careful because if you eat too few calories you will also start to lose muscle mass along with fat (your body might shift into survival mode) and you might become one of those skinny un-athletic people wi
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body.
Great post, but I disagree a bit with what you said here. I believe it's more effective for someone who is overweight and out of condition to begin an exercise program appropriate to their health at the same time that they begin losing the weight. While someone who is severely obese may not be up to running or biking long distances, or 90 minute gym sessions, they can do activities that will improve their overall health and not injure themselves in the process. Even mild exercise, like a ten minute walk after each meal, is sufficient to produce noticeable benefits. The key is to design a program appropriate to your overall health and condition. Sometimes your doctor can help. Most gyms will have one or more physical trainers on staff, and the better ones will help design a program that's 'doable' within any constraints you have. Lastly, exercise has a mental benefit over and above the physical. Folks who are trying to recover a state of fitness are becoming more aware of their body and how it feels. Exercise helps displace the "bad pain" of feeling fat with the "good pain" of "I just worked out, and boy am I tired."
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It's all up to you. Generally, the more the better! Do 10 every morning right after you wake up for a week. Not much, right? Next week, up it to 12 every morning. Continue to up the reps, and soon you'll be doing sit-ups like crazy, and your belly will become flatter. Some say that if you train your belly muscles, you should also train your back muscles, so that your posture won't suffer. Training your lower back is easy: lie face down, and raise your upper body from the floor. Sort of like an inverted sit-up. Do one for each sit-up? (Your belly won't be flat in 1 week, but after a month or two, you will start to notice a difference. I've been there! :))
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Some say that if you train your belly muscles, you should also train your back muscles, so that your posture won't suffer. Training your lower back is easy: lie face down, and raise your upper body from the floor. Sort of like an inverted sit-up. Do one for each sit-up?
That's good advice for anyone who spends all day sat down too, prevents getting an achy back. Hamstring stretches too help with that.
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
Hi HopingToCode, Congraulations (I think) on your weight loss. Before I respond to your post, would you mind sharing how rapidly you have lost this weight, what your daily intake of what types of fluids is, and whether or not you engage in aerobic exercise (exercise where your heartbeat is raised to a certain minimum level [threshold varies by age, weight, metabolism] for a certain minimum amount of time) ? Do you know your BMI (Body Mass Index). Any history of diabetes in your family ? Do you have any cyclic history of large fluctuations of weight ? Are you on any medications that might be affecting your metabolc rate ? Just one comment now : stress alone can raise cortisol levels which can affect abdominal fat. If you are female (I think you are male, but not completely sure), there are some other factors for you to consider, also. Your age is important here. No, I'm not a doctor, just fairly well informed on the topic. The more details you share, the more others here may offer you some insights, as well. If I respond further, it will be to point you to information which is scientific; i.e., reflecting the opinions of scientists and licensed Medical Doctors. to your health, Bill
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Hi HopingToCode, Congraulations (I think) on your weight loss. Before I respond to your post, would you mind sharing how rapidly you have lost this weight, what your daily intake of what types of fluids is, and whether or not you engage in aerobic exercise (exercise where your heartbeat is raised to a certain minimum level [threshold varies by age, weight, metabolism] for a certain minimum amount of time) ? Do you know your BMI (Body Mass Index). Any history of diabetes in your family ? Do you have any cyclic history of large fluctuations of weight ? Are you on any medications that might be affecting your metabolc rate ? Just one comment now : stress alone can raise cortisol levels which can affect abdominal fat. If you are female (I think you are male, but not completely sure), there are some other factors for you to consider, also. Your age is important here. No, I'm not a doctor, just fairly well informed on the topic. The more details you share, the more others here may offer you some insights, as well. If I respond further, it will be to point you to information which is scientific; i.e., reflecting the opinions of scientists and licensed Medical Doctors. to your health, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
I take it you haven't seen my new sig. Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg I do need to drink more water but I find it hard to remember I'm doing gym 6 times a week(okay this week 5 as I moved house) at the moment. 3 times a week resistance and 3 times cardio with at least one being HIIT. bmi is obese not sure of it at the moment. No real fluctuations just always been big. Mum was diabetic. No medications. Stress goes up and down but nothing abnormal. Male 32 Help that paints a pic.
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
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JazzJackRabbit wrote:
If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body.
Great post, but I disagree a bit with what you said here. I believe it's more effective for someone who is overweight and out of condition to begin an exercise program appropriate to their health at the same time that they begin losing the weight. While someone who is severely obese may not be up to running or biking long distances, or 90 minute gym sessions, they can do activities that will improve their overall health and not injure themselves in the process. Even mild exercise, like a ten minute walk after each meal, is sufficient to produce noticeable benefits. The key is to design a program appropriate to your overall health and condition. Sometimes your doctor can help. Most gyms will have one or more physical trainers on staff, and the better ones will help design a program that's 'doable' within any constraints you have. Lastly, exercise has a mental benefit over and above the physical. Folks who are trying to recover a state of fitness are becoming more aware of their body and how it feels. Exercise helps displace the "bad pain" of feeling fat with the "good pain" of "I just worked out, and boy am I tired."
Software Zen:
delete this;I wasn't saying he shouldn't exercise. I was saying it's very hard if not nearly impossible to lose fat and build muscle at the same time. In order to lose fat you need to eat less, in order to gain muscle you need to eat more so that body can build more muscles from food. Human body is not very efficient at converting fat into muscle, so typically you either cut fat, or build muscle. That said yes, exercise is still important, if nothing else it builds stamina and eases person into more intense workout as he drops the fat.
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Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks
:rolleyes: Yes, lose more weight. The human body *always* redistributes fat evenly throughout the body whatever amount of excess fat you have. If you want to *see* if you are losing weight then look at your clavicals and shoulder area because the fat is generally thinnest there so you will see changes there first. I thought it was well known general knowledge at this point that the only way to reduce fat from a particular place in the body is to cut it out with a knife or one of those suction machines. Read this for a realistic no bull description of everything weight and calorie related: http://www.hussmanfitness.org/theFridge.html[^] And take advantage of passive weight loss, i.e. the more muscle tissue you have the more calories are being burned just sitting around or sleeping.
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