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Why there is so few female programmers?

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  • A Alex E

    I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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    Giles
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    They are about 50/50 where I work.

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    • A Alex E

      I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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      :puts on asbestos: I think it's a brain-wiring thing. (Can we agree on women in general having a different wiring than men in general?) While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter. Classic programming is about absolute control - something very male. You have a subroutine you give your commands to, and if it doesn't obey, you not only discipline it to do *what* it has to do, but as well *how* it has to be done. (I think women would excel us completely at AI training - they are used to a more fuzzy "influence" type of control) That, or maybe they are just disgusted by the chixor fuxor suxor attitude that "surrounds" the the community.


      Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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        :puts on asbestos: I think it's a brain-wiring thing. (Can we agree on women in general having a different wiring than men in general?) While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter. Classic programming is about absolute control - something very male. You have a subroutine you give your commands to, and if it doesn't obey, you not only discipline it to do *what* it has to do, but as well *how* it has to be done. (I think women would excel us completely at AI training - they are used to a more fuzzy "influence" type of control) That, or maybe they are just disgusted by the chixor fuxor suxor attitude that "surrounds" the the community.


        Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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        peterchen wrote: Classic programming is about absolute control - something very male. You have a subroutine you give your commands to, and if it doesn't obey, you not only discipline it to do *what* it has to do, but as well *how* it has to be done. (I think women would excel us completely at AI training - they are used to a more fuzzy "influence" type of control) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Nice. May the Source be with you Sonork ID 100.9997 sijinjoseph

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        • A Alex E

          I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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          NormDroid
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          It's because men have a higher degree of spatial awarness (The ability to picture things in the mind). Developing with C++ is like programming by the seat of your pants

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            I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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            Nish Nishant
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            Here the majority are women, where I work. 72% female and 28% male! Weird eh? Nish


            Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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            • A Anders Molin

              I'll second that ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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              :laugh::laugh::laugh: Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                Here the majority are women, where I work. 72% female and 28% male! Weird eh? Nish


                Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                Anders Molin
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                I thought you were the only programmer there, and all the rest was web-developers of some kind... Does this mean you are 72% female? ;P - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                  I thought you were the only programmer there, and all the rest was web-developers of some kind... Does this mean you are 72% female? ;P - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Heheh. There are 14 programmers here - 10 women and 4 men. Of the women - 8 of them are on Java, HTML and JSP(ughhhhhhhhh) Of the other two, one does PHP, VB and ASP And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VB, PHP and ASP Of the 4 men, 3 of them do JSP and Java I am the 4th fellow and I do MFC, C++ and recently a little .NET (I was asked to do it using C#, but I chose MC++ ;-) ) Regards, Nish


                  Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                    Simple, men are generally lazy, and will prefer just sitting down and looking into a screen (be it PC or whatever). Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    Anders Molin
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                    I'll second that ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                    • N NormDroid

                      It's because men have a higher degree of spatial awarness (The ability to picture things in the mind). Developing with C++ is like programming by the seat of your pants

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                      Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                      my physics teacher calls this 3 dimensional conceptualisation :)


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                        Heheh. There are 14 programmers here - 10 women and 4 men. Of the women - 8 of them are on Java, HTML and JSP(ughhhhhhhhh) Of the other two, one does PHP, VB and ASP And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VB, PHP and ASP Of the 4 men, 3 of them do JSP and Java I am the 4th fellow and I do MFC, C++ and recently a little .NET (I was asked to do it using C#, but I chose MC++ ;-) ) Regards, Nish


                        Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                        Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                        Nishant S wrote: And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VBlearning, PHP and ASP :-D


                        :suss: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com   URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk
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                          :puts on asbestos: I think it's a brain-wiring thing. (Can we agree on women in general having a different wiring than men in general?) While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter. Classic programming is about absolute control - something very male. You have a subroutine you give your commands to, and if it doesn't obey, you not only discipline it to do *what* it has to do, but as well *how* it has to be done. (I think women would excel us completely at AI training - they are used to a more fuzzy "influence" type of control) That, or maybe they are just disgusted by the chixor fuxor suxor attitude that "surrounds" the the community.


                          Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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                          l a u r e n
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                          i find that you can train the logical a -> b -> c stuff into your brain by just hard work ... the a -> f -> d -> z comes naturally and makes for good solutions developing can i say this then ... *sniggaz* ... men _tend_ to be better at actually producing the code and stuff but chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution? *borrows asbestos suit* :)


                          "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
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                            I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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                            Alex E. wrote: I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders? Now if we could include the following in a language we would have 10 times more women programming:

                            orswitch(var)
                            {
                            case 1|2|3|4|5|6|7:
                            //do something, but dont break
                            case 2|4|7|9|3:
                            //do something else
                            case 1|5|7|8:
                            //ditto
                            exceptioncase:
                            //something is not like should be
                            }

                            Now if we can do that, we will have more women coders :laugh: Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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                              Alex E. wrote: I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders? Now if we could include the following in a language we would have 10 times more women programming:

                              orswitch(var)
                              {
                              case 1|2|3|4|5|6|7:
                              //do something, but dont break
                              case 2|4|7|9|3:
                              //do something else
                              case 1|5|7|8:
                              //ditto
                              exceptioncase:
                              //something is not like should be
                              }

                              Now if we can do that, we will have more women coders :laugh: Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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                              l a u r e n
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                              *lauren gets her gun out...*


                              "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                              biz stuff   about me

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                                I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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                                They just don't post on computer geek boards because when they do, they start receiving strange love letters. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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                                  They just don't post on computer geek boards because when they do, they start receiving strange love letters. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Tim Smith wrote: they start receiving strange love letters. Dear Timothy Smith, I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... ;P :laugh:

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
                                  Cape Town, South Africa

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                                  • A Alex E

                                    I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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                                    Sylph
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                                    wait and see.. in a few years... maybe us females will be asking the question.. why are there so few male programmers?... but the answer to that would probably be that we have out smarted the entire male race in EVERY field. ;P and to: "While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter." you obviously don't know many woman...woman are ALWAYS better on the latter :cool: :)

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                                      *lauren gets her gun out...*


                                      "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                                      biz stuff   about me

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                                      leppie
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                                      lauren wrote: *lauren gets her gun out...* :exceptioncase :laugh: no seriously, I have the greatest respect for female programmers and there should be more! Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Heheh. There are 14 programmers here - 10 women and 4 men. Of the women - 8 of them are on Java, HTML and JSP(ughhhhhhhhh) Of the other two, one does PHP, VB and ASP And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VB, PHP and ASP Of the 4 men, 3 of them do JSP and Java I am the 4th fellow and I do MFC, C++ and recently a little .NET (I was asked to do it using C#, but I chose MC++ ;-) ) Regards, Nish


                                        Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                                        Renjith Ramachandran
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                                        BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..***

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                                          Tim Smith wrote: they start receiving strange love letters. Dear Timothy Smith, I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... ;P :laugh:

                                          Paul Watson
                                          Bluegrass
                                          Cape Town, South Africa

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                                          Simon Walton
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                                          Paul Watson wrote: I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... On /: perhaps. :D Although you did use some big words there...

                                          Let Q = the set of all quotes, ever
                                          S = {a: a € Q : a is funny, a is nerdy }
                                          a1 a2...an

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