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  • D Dalek Dave

    There is nothing terribly wrong about the odd typo, (one or two), in a lengthy CV, particularly on 'difficult' words, but more than a couple, and on words they ought to know delivers that CV into the bin. A lax mind when doing a CV makes one wonder as to the concentration when doing actual work.

    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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    Wil Peck
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    These are my thoughts as well. Thanks for confirming.

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    • H hairy_hats

      Dalek Dave wrote:

      particularly on 'difficult' words

      In these days of spell-checkers I don't consider so-called "difficult words" to be an adequate defence for spelling errors.

      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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      Dalek Dave
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      Colour-color, Travelled-traveled, etc US and UK spellings are a pain to decypher!(or is that decipher)?

      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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      • R Russell Jones

        I'd disagree about this. You've got all the time in the world to prepare a CV and can give it to as many people as you want to check it and provide feedback. It's written about a subject in which you ought to be the expert. If you can't get it 100% right under these conditions what chance have you got of getting things right under less than ideal conditions?

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        Wil Peck
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        I couldn't agree with you more. If I see SQL Management Enterprise when someone claims to be an expert in SQL Server 2000 I have to question the integrity of their statement.

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        • W Wil Peck

          With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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          Shog9 0
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          Wil Peck wrote:

          Am I over reacting?

          No. You're hiring someone who needs the ability to pick an errant semicolon or misplaced operator out of pages of dense code. They should be able to proof a one or two page resume...

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Colour-color, Travelled-traveled, etc US and UK spellings are a pain to decypher!(or is that decipher)?

            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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            hairy_hats
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Colour-color, Travelled-traveled

            Never had a problem distinguishing those myself!

            I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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            • H hairy_hats

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Colour-color, Travelled-traveled

              Never had a problem distinguishing those myself!

              I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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              Dalek Dave
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              Not everyone is as wise and discretionary as us.

              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                Be careful here, A lot of agencies retype CVs this can introduce errors (both spelling and factual) I have experianced both (my spelling is terrible so i allways ensure that i check and then get someone else to proof read so i know that the errors were introduced by the agency) I have also found the addition of experiance in certain languages "added" to my CV. Needless to say that not only have I refused to do business with these angencies but in one case the company actually ceased payment and obtained a refund despite placing the person

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                Wil Peck
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                Yea, I have seen this too. Seems like many of the agencies like to put their 'branding' into the CV. Pretty lame when they modify experience with the intent exaggerate a candidates abilities.

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                • W Wil Peck

                  With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  No you're not. If they can't put 100% effort into the one document that gives them a chance to shine then what kind of quality will you get from them. And if that is their 100% then wish them luck. Lots of it. It's really not that hard to ask someone else to proof read a resume.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  • W Wil Peck

                    With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                    Todd Smith
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                    For the CV I look past most typos. For the resume it better be 100% correct. BTW it took me about 10 passes to catch all of the errors in my first CP article. And I'm sure there are still some in there. The mind plays tricks on you so it can be difficult to catch them all.

                    Todd Smith

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                    • W Wil Peck

                      With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      Wil Peck wrote:

                      Am I over reacting?

                      Hi Wil, I go along with the general consensus here, that you are not over-reacting to exclude if there are multiple typos. I think one possible exception would be that if you were looking at a CV that had a very impressive (and easily verifiable) track record of recent experience in just the technologies, languages, etc. that you were interested in hiring for : in that case only I would want to exclude (if there was any indication the CV did not come directly from the candidate : i.e., it was on some head-hunting firm's letterhead) the possibility that the CV had been re-typed by someone else. In that (admittedly improbable) case, I might ask the candidate to send me a copy of the CV they originally sent to the head-hunting outfit, or inquire if they had written their own CV, or if it had been altered. best, Bill

                      "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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                      • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                        Be careful here, A lot of agencies retype CVs this can introduce errors (both spelling and factual) I have experianced both (my spelling is terrible so i allways ensure that i check and then get someone else to proof read so i know that the errors were introduced by the agency) I have also found the addition of experiance in certain languages "added" to my CV. Needless to say that not only have I refused to do business with these angencies but in one case the company actually ceased payment and obtained a refund despite placing the person

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                        Oakman
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                        Alex hogarth wrote:

                        experiance

                        There goes your chances of Will hiring you.

                        Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                        • O Oakman

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          experiance

                          There goes your chances of Will hiring you.

                          Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                          Electron Shepherd
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                          Oakman wrote:

                          Will

                          And you. It always helps to get a person's name correct. :)

                          Server and Network Monitoring

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Colour-color, Travelled-traveled, etc US and UK spellings are a pain to decypher!(or is that decipher)?

                            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                            Electron Shepherd
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Colour-color

                            If you're applying for a job in IT, you should know how to switch the spell-checking dictionary to the language of choice.

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                            • E Electron Shepherd

                              Oakman wrote:

                              Will

                              And you. It always helps to get a person's name correct. :)

                              Server and Network Monitoring

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              Hoist on your own petard! :)

                              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Hoist on your own petard! :)

                                ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                Electron Shepherd
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                                Huh?

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                                • W Wil Peck

                                  With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                  If you have a feeling that the candidate may be potentially good, you could try to take a telephonic round before anything else. Some people don't care much about grammar/spelling, but they may be technically strong.

                                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Hoist on your own petard! :)

                                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                    Oakman
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    Hoist on your own petard!

                                    Anyone who writes 'Not everyone is as wise and discretionary as us" instead of "as we are," needs to spend some time with the beam in his own eye, methinks. ;)

                                    Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                                    • W Wil Peck

                                      With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                                      leckey 0
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                                      If a person can't take the time to have a resume spell checked, not to mention having grammar checked, I have serious doubts. You want to make the best impression just to get an interview. Interviews are nerve racking because you don't always know what to say and time is limited. You can take all the time you want to triple and quadrupile check a resume. If a person shows that little attention to detail I don't expect them to take the time to test coding properly. One typo is not a big deal to me, and I understand those that do not have English as a first language may have some grammer errors. How hard is it to take your resume to a career center for review or even have a friend look it over?

                                      Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        Hoist on your own petard!

                                        Anyone who writes 'Not everyone is as wise and discretionary as us" instead of "as we are," needs to spend some time with the beam in his own eye, methinks. ;)

                                        Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Ah, hoist with my own petard!

                                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                        • E Electron Shepherd

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          Will

                                          And you. It always helps to get a person's name correct. :)

                                          Server and Network Monitoring

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Electron Shepherd wrote:

                                          It always helps to get a person's name correct

                                          Only if you are looking for work. I'm turning it down these days, so I don't give a flying flip what their names are. :cool:

                                          Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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