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  • D Dalek Dave

    Colour-color, Travelled-traveled, etc US and UK spellings are a pain to decypher!(or is that decipher)?

    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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    Electron Shepherd
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Colour-color

    If you're applying for a job in IT, you should know how to switch the spell-checking dictionary to the language of choice.

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    • E Electron Shepherd

      Oakman wrote:

      Will

      And you. It always helps to get a person's name correct. :)

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      Dalek Dave
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      Hoist on your own petard! :)

      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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        Hoist on your own petard! :)

        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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        Electron Shepherd
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        Huh?

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        • W Wil Peck

          With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          If you have a feeling that the candidate may be potentially good, you could try to take a telephonic round before anything else. Some people don't care much about grammar/spelling, but they may be technically strong.

          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Hoist on your own petard! :)

            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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            Oakman
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Hoist on your own petard!

            Anyone who writes 'Not everyone is as wise and discretionary as us" instead of "as we are," needs to spend some time with the beam in his own eye, methinks. ;)

            Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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            • W Wil Peck

              With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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              leckey 0
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              If a person can't take the time to have a resume spell checked, not to mention having grammar checked, I have serious doubts. You want to make the best impression just to get an interview. Interviews are nerve racking because you don't always know what to say and time is limited. You can take all the time you want to triple and quadrupile check a resume. If a person shows that little attention to detail I don't expect them to take the time to test coding properly. One typo is not a big deal to me, and I understand those that do not have English as a first language may have some grammer errors. How hard is it to take your resume to a career center for review or even have a friend look it over?

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              • O Oakman

                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Hoist on your own petard!

                Anyone who writes 'Not everyone is as wise and discretionary as us" instead of "as we are," needs to spend some time with the beam in his own eye, methinks. ;)

                Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                Dalek Dave
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                Ah, hoist with my own petard!

                ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                • E Electron Shepherd

                  Oakman wrote:

                  Will

                  And you. It always helps to get a person's name correct. :)

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                  Oakman
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                  Electron Shepherd wrote:

                  It always helps to get a person's name correct

                  Only if you are looking for work. I'm turning it down these days, so I don't give a flying flip what their names are. :cool:

                  Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                  • W Wil Peck

                    With so many candidates on the market looking for work, it seems like first impressions would be of the utmost importance. Yet, I still am receiving resumes with numerous typos. I take these typos very seriously when considering a potential employee/contractor given the fact I may either have to maintain, modify, fix code they have written at some point. Am I over reacting?

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    I say no. It's not just typos. Are the professional enough to use a non-goofy email address? Which reminds me; a year ago I was about to go in for an interview when the recruiter called and said the hiring manager couldn't find my articles on CodeProject so could I bring proof I actually wrote them. Even the recruiter was rather shocked by this. I told the recruiter to tell the hiring manager that I wasn't going to work for a company run by such incompetent people. I still stand by that.

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                    • O Oakman

                      Alex hogarth wrote:

                      experiance

                      There goes your chances of Will hiring you.

                      Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      yep and if you look further you will probably find more. However this is not a CV and to be honest if I had to put the effort into finding these mistakes on here I probably wouldnt bother posting. A CV however if a different matter and I agree that mistakes on a CV is bad, however as I pointed out these maynot be the fault of the author.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Ah, hoist with my own petard!

                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                        Oakman
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        Ah, hoist with my own petard!

                        And how far out of the water did your ship raise your ship?

                        Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                          yep and if you look further you will probably find more. However this is not a CV and to be honest if I had to put the effort into finding these mistakes on here I probably wouldnt bother posting. A CV however if a different matter and I agree that mistakes on a CV is bad, however as I pointed out these maynot be the fault of the author.

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                          Oakman
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                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          probably wouldnt bother posting.

                          If a things worth doin'; it's worth doing right, I always say. . . And saying that all the time is what makes me so well loved. ;)

                          Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                          • O Oakman

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Ah, hoist with my own petard!

                            And how far out of the water did your ship raise your ship?

                            Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Only a few inches, but stern first!

                            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                            • S Shog9 0

                              Wil Peck wrote:

                              Am I over reacting?

                              No. You're hiring someone who needs the ability to pick an errant semicolon or misplaced operator out of pages of dense code. They should be able to proof a one or two page resume...

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                              Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                              Hi, Shog. I agree with your point, but I did want to point out that picking out an errant semi-colon in dense code and proof-reading a CV use different sets of language rules and skills. I'd argue the rules for programming languages are laid out more thoughtfully than the rules for spoken or written languages. Not to mention a programmer may have more experience proof-reading code than proof-reading his/her language. :-\ But, yes. You are hiring someone who not only needs to speak well to computers, but also to potential customers (through direct contact or through documentation). So, communication skills are a must. If their CV looks like crap, just imagine what kind of documentation they may produce... *shudder* Cheers! :beer: Flynn

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                                Huh?

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                                Mladen Jankovic
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                                He's drunk again :)

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Only a few inches, but stern first!

                                  ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  How bad was the rudder/screw damage and did you spring any leaks?

                                  The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                                  • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

                                    Hi, Shog. I agree with your point, but I did want to point out that picking out an errant semi-colon in dense code and proof-reading a CV use different sets of language rules and skills. I'd argue the rules for programming languages are laid out more thoughtfully than the rules for spoken or written languages. Not to mention a programmer may have more experience proof-reading code than proof-reading his/her language. :-\ But, yes. You are hiring someone who not only needs to speak well to computers, but also to potential customers (through direct contact or through documentation). So, communication skills are a must. If their CV looks like crap, just imagine what kind of documentation they may produce... *shudder* Cheers! :beer: Flynn

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                                    Shog9 0
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                                    Flynn Arrowstarr wrote:

                                    I agree with your point, but I did want to point out that picking out an errant semi-colon in dense code and proof-reading a CV use different sets of language rules and skills.

                                    Yes, i agree with that. But, the OP mentioned "typos" - inadvertent errors, misplaced keystrokes and the like. That's the difference between expecting a C programmer to notice a semicolon between an if condition and block... and expecting a VB programmer to see the same thing.

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                                      Flynn Arrowstarr wrote:

                                      I agree with your point, but I did want to point out that picking out an errant semi-colon in dense code and proof-reading a CV use different sets of language rules and skills.

                                      Yes, i agree with that. But, the OP mentioned "typos" - inadvertent errors, misplaced keystrokes and the like. That's the difference between expecting a C programmer to notice a semicolon between an if condition and block... and expecting a VB programmer to see the same thing.

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                                      Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      That's the difference between expecting a C programmer to notice a semicolon between an if condition and block... and expecting a VB programmer to see the same thing.

                                      That's why I included the second paragraph. I'd be less concerned with the person writing/proof-reading application source than with writing/proof-reading documentation. Particularly any documentation which will be released into the wild. The applicant may have impeccable code-writing/proofing skills, but simply suck at written communication. At that point, if the applicant scores high enough on the skill-set, I may be willing to sit through a telephone interview to see if they can back up their skill set, and then work with them on their communications skills. If they don't, it goes in the "do not hire" bin. :) Note, I'm not responsible for hiring anyone, so take my opinions with a canister of salt, heh. Flynn -- did I hear someone say, "Thank goodness!"? :-\

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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        That's the difference between expecting a C programmer to notice a semicolon between an if condition and block... and expecting a VB programmer to see the same thing.

                                        That's why I included the second paragraph. I'd be less concerned with the person writing/proof-reading application source than with writing/proof-reading documentation. Particularly any documentation which will be released into the wild. The applicant may have impeccable code-writing/proofing skills, but simply suck at written communication. At that point, if the applicant scores high enough on the skill-set, I may be willing to sit through a telephone interview to see if they can back up their skill set, and then work with them on their communications skills. If they don't, it goes in the "do not hire" bin. :) Note, I'm not responsible for hiring anyone, so take my opinions with a canister of salt, heh. Flynn -- did I hear someone say, "Thank goodness!"? :-\

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                                        Shog9 0
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                                        Flynn Arrowstarr wrote:

                                        Note, I'm not responsible for hiring anyone, so take my opinions with a canister of salt, heh.

                                        Same here... ;-)

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                                        • O Oakman

                                          Electron Shepherd wrote:

                                          It always helps to get a person's name correct

                                          Only if you are looking for work. I'm turning it down these days, so I don't give a flying flip what their names are. :cool:

                                          Jon "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. Soap Box 1.0: the first, the original, reborn troll-less

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          I'm turning it down these days

                                          I envy you. I've been "resting" for the better part of a year. :(

                                          Kevin

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