Can't wait to see all the Why Weven Sucks Today posts
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At this point I'll be amused to see many of the so called experts here who to this very day I'm betting many of which still haven't taken the time to learn about the fundamentals of windows security that were finally enforced in Vista start bitching and publicly exhibiting their ongoing laziness and stupidity and sheer lack of professionalism when they realize that their apps that didn't play nicely on Vista and which they jumped on here to vilify Vista about, still won't play nicely on Windows 7. It was a head scratcher the first time around: blaming the OS for things they should have been complying with since windows NT 4.0 at least and it will be utterly ludicrous this time around and I will gleefully descend upon them with great and furious needling. :)
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
John C wrote:
It was a head scratcher the first time around: blaming the OS for things they should have been complying with since windows NT 4.0 at least and it will be utterly ludicrous this time around and I will gleefully descend upon them with great and furious needling. Smile
To quote it from a movie: "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance". Bonus points for finding the movie name, without Googling. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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John C wrote:
It was a head scratcher the first time around: blaming the OS for things they should have been complying with since windows NT 4.0 at least and it will be utterly ludicrous this time around and I will gleefully descend upon them with great and furious needling. Smile
To quote it from a movie: "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance". Bonus points for finding the movie name, without Googling. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Just guess what my wallet has written on it!
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At this point I'll be amused to see many of the so called experts here who to this very day I'm betting many of which still haven't taken the time to learn about the fundamentals of windows security that were finally enforced in Vista start bitching and publicly exhibiting their ongoing laziness and stupidity and sheer lack of professionalism when they realize that their apps that didn't play nicely on Vista and which they jumped on here to vilify Vista about, still won't play nicely on Windows 7. It was a head scratcher the first time around: blaming the OS for things they should have been complying with since windows NT 4.0 at least and it will be utterly ludicrous this time around and I will gleefully descend upon them with great and furious needling. :)
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
Never had a problem with UAC in my own apps. Had plenty of problems with other people's apps though, most of them written by the one company. I'm looking at Explorer and Visual Studio as the 2 biggest offenders. I want to delete a file so windows tells me that if i want to delete it i'll have to give it permission so then Windows asks my permission then windows says it can't do it because it's locked or permission denied etc. Visual studio has to run as admin so that certain features i'm using can work which means all my apps get developed as admin and I have to turn the admin setting on and off depending on what I'm working on at the time. If Microsoft's developers can't sort the thing out so that their users aren't continually being hassled it doesn't set the best example. There was no way of telling virtualisation to ignore your app so if you made a mistake in your development (easy to fail to notice this because VS was running as admin) Vista allowed your app to work until someone changed the UAC settings when it bombed spectacularly. Microsoft provided precious little support to developers or even power users explaining what changes they had made or how those changes worked, I had to download one of Darka's apps to even get run command prompt here as administrator. They failed to provide the equivalent of the su or sudo commands which would have made many powerusers lives easier. Seven seems somewhat better, I've had it in a VM for a few months now and tested our installers against it, it seems OK so far. I'll wait for a first SP before installing it for real though because I'm still wishing that my work PC was an XP box and don't feel like going through the pain of finding all the undocumented 'features' again.
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Just guess what my wallet has written on it!
Russell Jones wrote:
Just guess what my wallet has written on it!
"Don't forget the mushroom today"? :) BTW, I take it that you haven't seen pulp fiction?
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Russell Jones wrote:
Just guess what my wallet has written on it!
"Don't forget the mushroom today"? :) BTW, I take it that you haven't seen pulp fiction?
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
I wouldn't need that written on my wallet. Was thinking of the scene just after Jules has quoted that passage for the last time where he requests that they return his wallet. Didn't want to give away the actual name of the film
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I wouldn't need that written on my wallet. Was thinking of the scene just after Jules has quoted that passage for the last time where he requests that they return his wallet. Didn't want to give away the actual name of the film
Ah, I get that now. Also, nice to know you won't forget the mushrooms. I'm bad at it. :-O
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Never had a problem with UAC in my own apps. Had plenty of problems with other people's apps though, most of them written by the one company. I'm looking at Explorer and Visual Studio as the 2 biggest offenders. I want to delete a file so windows tells me that if i want to delete it i'll have to give it permission so then Windows asks my permission then windows says it can't do it because it's locked or permission denied etc. Visual studio has to run as admin so that certain features i'm using can work which means all my apps get developed as admin and I have to turn the admin setting on and off depending on what I'm working on at the time. If Microsoft's developers can't sort the thing out so that their users aren't continually being hassled it doesn't set the best example. There was no way of telling virtualisation to ignore your app so if you made a mistake in your development (easy to fail to notice this because VS was running as admin) Vista allowed your app to work until someone changed the UAC settings when it bombed spectacularly. Microsoft provided precious little support to developers or even power users explaining what changes they had made or how those changes worked, I had to download one of Darka's apps to even get run command prompt here as administrator. They failed to provide the equivalent of the su or sudo commands which would have made many powerusers lives easier. Seven seems somewhat better, I've had it in a VM for a few months now and tested our installers against it, it seems OK so far. I'll wait for a first SP before installing it for real though because I'm still wishing that my work PC was an XP box and don't feel like going through the pain of finding all the undocumented 'features' again.
Russell Jones wrote:
There was no way of telling virtualisation to ignore your app so if you made a mistake in your development (easy to fail to notice this because VS was running as admin) Vista allowed your app to work until someone changed the UAC settings when it bombed spectacularly
Actually this was the number one thing that most developers overlooked which is that they should have been specifying a manifest for their apps in which case they would have known right away during development what worked and what didn't. It was the most useful single piece of knowledge to have about Vista as a developer and I was and still am surprised that so few knew about it. Microsoft definitely sucked in their information to developers about Vista but the bottom line is that it was all there for the taking if you made an effort and professional developers that want to call themselves that should have taken the effort to find it rather than whine about it here making themselves look lazy and or stupid and or unprofessional. If I were hiring I could have weeded out a lot of people just from their posts here about Vista.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
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John C wrote:
It was a head scratcher the first time around: blaming the OS for things they should have been complying with since windows NT 4.0 at least and it will be utterly ludicrous this time around and I will gleefully descend upon them with great and furious needling. Smile
To quote it from a movie: "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance". Bonus points for finding the movie name, without Googling. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Dude I wouldn't have paraphrased it without having seen the movie unless I was some kind of bible thumper which I most firmly am not and though I haven't read the other replies to your post yet I expect some said god botherers will point out that it's originally from a certain religious book not from Pulp Fiction.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
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Dude I wouldn't have paraphrased it without having seen the movie unless I was some kind of bible thumper which I most firmly am not and though I haven't read the other replies to your post yet I expect some said god botherers will point out that it's originally from a certain religious book not from Pulp Fiction.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
Well, I knew it was from the Bible, but then Pulp Fiction made the quote famous. (Otherwise there was no way I would have known it).
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Well, I knew it was from the Bible, but then Pulp Fiction made the quote famous. (Otherwise there was no way I would have known it).
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini