Why Weven rocks today
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This looks to be an excellent time to stay away from here for the next month or so until the wars are over and all that's left are the people who are still bitching here publicly about stuff that is "stupid" or "broken" or "buggy" that turns out to be stuff they should have already picked up on as "professional" developers when they should have been reading all the application programming guides for 7 but were still too busy posting here about how much Vista Sucks because it won't let their apps puke all over the file system or registry any more and how stupid all these changes are that "break" their apps. They'll bitch about that stuff all over again as if they are entitled to be bad, lazy shameless programmers their whole career and should *not* (god forbid) have to actually roll up their sleeves and actually learn a single new thing since they got their last job. *That* part of the Lounge new software rant cycle is always fun! :)
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I've said it before - I loved Vista; it was glossy, shiny and a lot better than it was given credit for. MS shot themselves in the foot by shifting developers over to fix XP, thus pushing the delivery cycle for Vista to 5 years - people expected that 5 years would lead to something completely different. Saying that - just finished installing Seven (I am not going to use that bloody stupid name for it), and the install was an absolute breeze. Older hardware picked up no problem - system booted into really quickly, and a tweaked UI.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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I've said it before - I loved Vista; it was glossy, shiny and a lot better than it was given credit for. MS shot themselves in the foot by shifting developers over to fix XP, thus pushing the delivery cycle for Vista to 5 years - people expected that 5 years would lead to something completely different. Saying that - just finished installing Seven (I am not going to use that bloody stupid name for it), and the install was an absolute breeze. Older hardware picked up no problem - system booted into really quickly, and a tweaked UI.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
So you're not changing your name to Pete O'Weven to celebrate the launch of the new OS?
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No real reason other than it was released to the unwashed masses. I just thought I'd get in a preemptive strike before the avalanche of negativity pounded us into submission.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I've said it before - I loved Vista; it was glossy, shiny and a lot better than it was given credit for. MS shot themselves in the foot by shifting developers over to fix XP, thus pushing the delivery cycle for Vista to 5 years - people expected that 5 years would lead to something completely different. Saying that - just finished installing Seven (I am not going to use that bloody stupid name for it), and the install was an absolute breeze. Older hardware picked up no problem - system booted into really quickly, and a tweaked UI.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Seven (I am not going to use that bloody stupid name for it)
I second that, definitely. :)
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I've said it before - I loved Vista; it was glossy, shiny and a lot better than it was given credit for. MS shot themselves in the foot by shifting developers over to fix XP, thus pushing the delivery cycle for Vista to 5 years - people expected that 5 years would lead to something completely different. Saying that - just finished installing Seven (I am not going to use that bloody stupid name for it), and the install was an absolute breeze. Older hardware picked up no problem - system booted into really quickly, and a tweaked UI.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi... But you should be aware by now that the company succesfully demonstrates complete destruction of human intelligence as evident by the Lounge 'rocks' and 'sucks' and naturally defence-style 'Ballmer gave me Rice Krispies this AM'.. As for other security comment by John C, oh man, it's been around for 40 years and MS just copied it in Vista recently.. again, first it destroyed intelligence and than made it look like an invention and education Lounge can proudly talk about :) And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward.. Hmm, intelligence gets wounded again. Now, if I may, I'd suggest you download 340% faster than IE, Google Chrome source straight after you install 7 and SVN client and look at how 8 and 9 will morph into decimation of managed software world :-)
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Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi... But you should be aware by now that the company succesfully demonstrates complete destruction of human intelligence as evident by the Lounge 'rocks' and 'sucks' and naturally defence-style 'Ballmer gave me Rice Krispies this AM'.. As for other security comment by John C, oh man, it's been around for 40 years and MS just copied it in Vista recently.. again, first it destroyed intelligence and than made it look like an invention and education Lounge can proudly talk about :) And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward.. Hmm, intelligence gets wounded again. Now, if I may, I'd suggest you download 340% faster than IE, Google Chrome source straight after you install 7 and SVN client and look at how 8 and 9 will morph into decimation of managed software world :-)
User of Users Group wrote:
after you install 7 and SVN client and look at how 8 and 9 will morph into decimation of managed software
I might have written "after you install Weven and SVN client and look at how Weight and Wine will morph into decimation of managed software world" And a pedant might point out that the original meaning of decimate was "To kill 1 in ten". Thus, using your proposed rate of half a decimaton per Windows release, managed software will not be reduced to 1/10 of its current penetration until the release of WortyWive :laugh:
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modified on Friday, August 7, 2009 6:41 AM
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I've actually been using various build of Weven since the beta came out. I did a clean install of the x64 RTM code a week ago. I'm very, very impressed with it. The whole OS seems a whole lot more usable and cohesive than vista ever was. :) I actually don't mind vista, and have used it at work since early 2007 and I never thought it was *that* bad. until now... 7 sh*ts all over it. I had the Beta\RC on my old athlon at home and the general performance and responsiveness was about the same as XP. Vista on that machine would be a joke. Device support is awesome - couple of examples - I plugged an old no-name usb bluetooth dongle in which isn't recognised by xp or vista, and I've lost the disk and don't know the brand, so its useless. 7 installed drivers and worked straight away. 7 also detected my canon printer/scanner and I needed to scan something but hadn't installed the bloated printer management software, but when I right-clicked on the printer I saw a scan option. Selected that and I got managed to scan my docs without any problems. Also media player is very good. Its the first version of media player that I haven't un-installed and replaced with media player classic. Microsoft is onto a winner here. Best. Windows. Ever. no kidding.
Johnno74 wrote:
7 also detected my canon printer/scanner
Does the scanner use TWAIN or WIA?
Spike Mulligan is at WW2 Conscription intake centre. Officer asks "Where you born Mulligan". "India, sir", Mulligan briskly replies. "Which part" asks the officer. To which Spike replies "All of me, sir".
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No real reason other than it was released to the unwashed masses. I just thought I'd get in a preemptive strike before the avalanche of negativity pounded us into submission.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I'm sure it *would* rock if I could actually download the damn thing.
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Why do I associate the word 'rocks' with the word 'flounders'? :rolleyes:
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Spike Mulligan is at WW2 Conscription intake centre. Officer asks "Where you born Mulligan". "India, sir", Mulligan briskly replies. "Which part" asks the officer. To which Spike replies "All of me, sir".
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I'm sure it *would* rock if I could actually download the damn thing.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Have you tried using the alternate download site? 1:20min for me at lunchtime yesterday.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Have you tried using the alternate download site? 1:20min for me at lunchtime yesterday.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
JSOP will now post, explaining that he cannot do that because his Expression subscription is not an MSDN subscription and there is, therefore, no alternate site................... Do keep up!
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Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi... But you should be aware by now that the company succesfully demonstrates complete destruction of human intelligence as evident by the Lounge 'rocks' and 'sucks' and naturally defence-style 'Ballmer gave me Rice Krispies this AM'.. As for other security comment by John C, oh man, it's been around for 40 years and MS just copied it in Vista recently.. again, first it destroyed intelligence and than made it look like an invention and education Lounge can proudly talk about :) And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward.. Hmm, intelligence gets wounded again. Now, if I may, I'd suggest you download 340% faster than IE, Google Chrome source straight after you install 7 and SVN client and look at how 8 and 9 will morph into decimation of managed software world :-)
User of Users Group wrote:
Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi
Fanboy ends in a y, not an i.
User of Users Group wrote:
And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward..
Errm - I don't think you'll ever find a post from me stating that C or C++ code is stupid or backwards. Perhaps if you removed your head from your own distorted, conspiracy filled arse for a while, you'd find that I have nothing but respect for C/C++ coders; after all, I spent the best part of 15 years coding in one or the other of them. Still - we expect nothing less from you, so we'll continue to sit back and let you rave, spit and foam, while we continue to crank out applications quickly and get paid for them.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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User of Users Group wrote:
Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi
Fanboy ends in a y, not an i.
User of Users Group wrote:
And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward..
Errm - I don't think you'll ever find a post from me stating that C or C++ code is stupid or backwards. Perhaps if you removed your head from your own distorted, conspiracy filled arse for a while, you'd find that I have nothing but respect for C/C++ coders; after all, I spent the best part of 15 years coding in one or the other of them. Still - we expect nothing less from you, so we'll continue to sit back and let you rave, spit and foam, while we continue to crank out applications quickly and get paid for them.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Oh dear Pete.. how your tone keeps changing. But that's how you kicked off initially, got corrected but fanboI attitude persists. All the best making all the money.. And raving in the Lounge on 15 years of not mastering an iterator, range or currying concept :) My point is clear: never underestimate what you are doing with each Windows installation.
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No real reason other than it was released to the unwashed masses. I just thought I'd get in a preemptive strike before the avalanche of negativity pounded us into submission.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Have you tried using the alternate download site? 1:20min for me at lunchtime yesterday.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I can't because his my Expression subscription is not an MSDN subscription and there is, therefore, no alternate site. I've actually exchanged emails with a MSDN guy about the sheer stupidity of disallowing Expression Pro subscribers from using the MSDN download page, and he essentially agreed that it was stupid. However, Microsoft has never demonstrated any interest in what their users think, so Ianticipate no change in the state of things. I'm on the phone at this very moment with Customer (dis)Service, and the guy put me on hold for a few minutes, and then came back and told me to go to the subscriber download page. I headed him off and told him that Expression Pro subscribers can't use that download page, and he seemed surprised. He also said I was the FIRST person to call about the download problem. I guess the designers weren't aware it was available, or they just chalked up any download problems they had as "business as usual" at Microsoft.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Johnno74 wrote:
7 also detected my canon printer/scanner
Does the scanner use TWAIN or WIA?
Spike Mulligan is at WW2 Conscription intake centre. Officer asks "Where you born Mulligan". "India, sir", Mulligan briskly replies. "Which part" asks the officer. To which Spike replies "All of me, sir".
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Once that happens its guaranteed to suck massively.
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If anybody here was going to claim suckage on Weven, it would be me, but I happen to like it for the most part. Until I find something that sucks about it, I'll just have to continue finding suckage in Visual Studio and WPF.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
This looks to be an excellent time to stay away from here for the next month or so until the wars are over and all that's left are the people who are still bitching here publicly about stuff that is "stupid" or "broken" or "buggy" that turns out to be stuff they should have already picked up on as "professional" developers when they should have been reading all the application programming guides for 7 but were still too busy posting here about how much Vista Sucks because it won't let their apps puke all over the file system or registry any more and how stupid all these changes are that "break" their apps. They'll bitch about that stuff all over again as if they are entitled to be bad, lazy shameless programmers their whole career and should *not* (god forbid) have to actually roll up their sleeves and actually learn a single new thing since they got their last job. *That* part of the Lounge new software rant cycle is always fun! :)
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
Amen to that! Me stay away too as I have enough frustration trying to satisfy clients (who really don't understand what they want or need). Don't need idiots bashing things they really don't understand to begin with (such as outdated and buggy firmware resulting in an OS error message, somehow being the fault of the OS, DUH!).
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Once that happens its guaranteed to suck massively.
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
ROTFLMAO!!!!! How true! Worth a good laugh anyways!
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User of Users Group wrote:
Yeah, change it to Pete O'MS-fanboi
Fanboy ends in a y, not an i.
User of Users Group wrote:
And btw, what you both are doing right now TM (+ 10 other fanbois) is nothing but praising C-code, unmanaged, 'ape', dark-age, developers that you both (+ x other fanbois) kept on pounding for being stupid and backward..
Errm - I don't think you'll ever find a post from me stating that C or C++ code is stupid or backwards. Perhaps if you removed your head from your own distorted, conspiracy filled arse for a while, you'd find that I have nothing but respect for C/C++ coders; after all, I spent the best part of 15 years coding in one or the other of them. Still - we expect nothing less from you, so we'll continue to sit back and let you rave, spit and foam, while we continue to crank out applications quickly and get paid for them.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Not that I care any about whatever you two are on about currently but....
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Fanboy ends in a y, not an i.
fanboi is an internet word similar to pwn or woot. Fanboy is what happens when proper english speaking people try to mimic what they hear/see on the internet. Fanboi came first. Fanboy was a misspelling that has gotten widely adopted by the ignorant (and blissful). similiarly, people who verbalize pwn as "pone" (or pwnd as "poned") are doing such out of ignorance rather than knowledge.