DOS prompt
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The days of PEEK and POKE, READ and DATA, GOSUB and RETURN.
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load "game",8,1
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new drive? g=c800:0005 ok. i'm done. :-O
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It is funny that I come across people who keep on referring to the command prompt as DOS prompt long after "DOS Prompt" is an history. I was on a support call and asked the customer to launch the command prompt. He replied: "Ok I have launched the DOS prompt".
It still feels like DOS, and I like it that way. The thing I miss is the help command, which got me started on the first programming experience I had. By the age of 14 I built a game menu using the help command and the .bat file. I also wonder if anyone remembers the PathMinder. It brings me memories...
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It is a badge of honour for us oldies! Some of us remember DOS 3.3! (And CP/M) Getting up a blank screen with a C:\> at the bottom, and nothing else kept the muggles away from the shiny things :)
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Some of us remember DOS 3.3! (And CP/M)
Think you're an Oldie? How 'bout PC DOS 1.1? PDP-11 O/S, RSTS-E, RSX/11M, Cyber74, IBM OS 360. -CB :D
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Terminate and Stay Resident programs which were a PITA to code.... :-D and wait for it.... the three finger salute - Ctrl+Alt+Delete :laugh:
#define STOOPID #if STOOPID Console.WriteLine("I'm stoopid!"); #endif
TSR's were a bit of a pain, but it was a lot of FUN too. I used to love the power of writing in MASM. Now THAT was programming. -CB ;)
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Floor sort! :laugh: I helped a blind guy do a 'floor sort' once in college; he was in my data structures class. Fortunately, he numbered his cards (columns 73-80).
Software Zen:
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It wasnt many months of PC usage when I already managed to Ctrl+Alt+Del using only my right hand because most of the time my left hand was occupied in holding phone (wired phone, you know those old clunky ones wih rolling number interface instead of buttons, hehe). Those days take me into what I am about to babble about, which is (surprisingly) not offtopic. I was already been a SysOp for some time when OS/2 Warp was introduced and we made the decision to move into using it in our BBS. I cant even remember what its prompt was called, was it "OS/2 Prompt"? Still I allways thought of it as "DOS prompt"... but nowadays (as I dont treasure badges of honors) I just refer to those as "prompt" or "console"... depends on how I feel. (usually using "console" is to annoy some other people who seem to fail in understanding my meaning because they want to argue about the word used which ultimately reveals they actually did understand what I meant in saying "No you cant call prompt a console".) Some users who dont know computers so well refer to it as "that black box" which is allways kind of cute, thinking "prompt = blackbox" :)
lol Whenever I have to ask a user to open the command prompt I always ask them "Do you see a black box?" They always know what I mean, but asking if they see a black window, or a window with a black background they often get confused. Another way to describe it is to ask if they see the blinking line. CP/M was my first operating system as a kid, on a kaypro II with dual builtin floppies and 64k memory. We were high tech man!:cool: In my mind it will always be the dos prompt even if I don't call it that out loud.
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Ahh, but have you ever had to multi-punch a shredded card from the middle of an card deck that was in object code? al
Fortunately, no. I did however work on a project where we assembled code on an Intel development system, copied the object files to tape on a Silent 700 terminal, rolled the terminal over to the test bench, and then uploaded the code from the terminal to the machine we were developing. The ROM monitor in the machine could record patches back onto the Silent 700 tape. At one point, we had more patches on the tape than we had code assembled by the Intel box. At least with your punched cards you could see the bits :rolleyes:.
Software Zen:
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lol Whenever I have to ask a user to open the command prompt I always ask them "Do you see a black box?" They always know what I mean, but asking if they see a black window, or a window with a black background they often get confused. Another way to describe it is to ask if they see the blinking line. CP/M was my first operating system as a kid, on a kaypro II with dual builtin floppies and 64k memory. We were high tech man!:cool: In my mind it will always be the dos prompt even if I don't call it that out loud.
I have my computer setup so when the command line (CMD) comes up it has a black background and green letters. Reminds me of my green screen days writing turbo pascal and batch files.
SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown
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lol Whenever I have to ask a user to open the command prompt I always ask them "Do you see a black box?" They always know what I mean, but asking if they see a black window, or a window with a black background they often get confused. Another way to describe it is to ask if they see the blinking line. CP/M was my first operating system as a kid, on a kaypro II with dual builtin floppies and 64k memory. We were high tech man!:cool: In my mind it will always be the dos prompt even if I don't call it that out loud.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein. To bad I have to do that with one of my bosses.....Click start, click run, type in cmd I have to spell it out like cat mouse dog Then it says windows cannot find. Then I have him read it back to me, he had actually put in catmousedog. Sad. Then I had ilikeicecreamplikepotatoconfig haha. People are funny.
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Some of us remember DOS 3.3! (And CP/M)
Think you're an Oldie? How 'bout PC DOS 1.1? PDP-11 O/S, RSTS-E, RSX/11M, Cyber74, IBM OS 360. -CB :D
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I was just explaining to my Dad this afternoon why he really wouldn't want to be using DOS instead of Vista (yes, even instead of Vista) - the idea of using a browser concurrently with Excel was enough to make him accept that maybe Vista did have some good points...(yeah, he hates Vista more than most CP members - possibly even more than Christan Graus!) Just until this weekend when I upgrade him to Weven, anyway.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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You forgot Windows 1 And pc tools (did anyone else use it, just a gui to dos).
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle
ecooke wrote:
You forgot Windows 1
Actually, it was Windows 1.01 - but who's counting? :) We had the first copies of Win1.01 and Digital Research DR-DOS back when I worked at Quadram. We also had a multitasking DOS called "Concurrent DOS" which was really pretty cool. None of them were particularly stable, though. We bundled them with the QuadEMS+ I/O memory boards back in 1986 or so. It was right around the same time-period as the Challenger disaster. Writing code during the early PC market was seriously fun. Those years blew by very quickly. -CB ;)
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Or until the command prompt is completely removed in favour of PowerShell.
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I like Vista. Never had a problem, short of slow file copies, and sorting the explorer file lists....
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle
Fair enough - my dad, however, hasn't been as fortunate as yourself.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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What's in a name? It looks like a DOS prompt, it quacks like DOS prompt... I do most of my work in a DOS box, with DOS commands like: DIR and DEL and TYPE and EDIT, the same as I have for twenty years or more. The lack of a command line was a big part of why I never used a Mac. They can have my DOS prompt when they pry it from my cold dead hands. On the other hand, I see that they have made improvements that really should have been in DOS decades ago.
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Aahhhh ... takes me back to my youth. Then again, I still use the console a lot. Most developers around have no idea how to use it. The other funny thing is that there is a difference between 'Start -> Run > cmd' and 'Start -> Run -> command' The one with command start out with saying 'Microsoft(R) Windows DOS', ignoring the settings in the registry (I am one of those people who changed the console to be green on black ... because it makes me look cool :cool:);
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
If I remember right, command is 16 bit, and cmd is 32. Or something like that. I do know that some apps won't start from a bat file (which is started using command when you double click it) but will from a .cmd file (which is started using cmd). Same applies to scheduled tasks. That took me a while to track down why it wouldn't start.
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle
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It wasnt many months of PC usage when I already managed to Ctrl+Alt+Del using only my right hand because most of the time my left hand was occupied in holding phone (wired phone, you know those old clunky ones wih rolling number interface instead of buttons, hehe). Those days take me into what I am about to babble about, which is (surprisingly) not offtopic. I was already been a SysOp for some time when OS/2 Warp was introduced and we made the decision to move into using it in our BBS. I cant even remember what its prompt was called, was it "OS/2 Prompt"? Still I allways thought of it as "DOS prompt"... but nowadays (as I dont treasure badges of honors) I just refer to those as "prompt" or "console"... depends on how I feel. (usually using "console" is to annoy some other people who seem to fail in understanding my meaning because they want to argue about the word used which ultimately reveals they actually did understand what I meant in saying "No you cant call prompt a console".) Some users who dont know computers so well refer to it as "that black box" which is allways kind of cute, thinking "prompt = blackbox" :)
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The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein. To bad I have to do that with one of my bosses.....Click start, click run, type in cmd I have to spell it out like cat mouse dog Then it says windows cannot find. Then I have him read it back to me, he had actually put in catmousedog. Sad. Then I had ilikeicecreamplikepotatoconfig haha. People are funny.
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle
The only thing worse is having to do that with your mom or sister. Actaully my mom is fairly adept at following instructions from a support person. Many years of being the girl in the office who they voluntold to call on technical issues. My sister however, hates computers and is only too happy to shove it in my lap for me to "just fix it." The last time I had to walk her through something over the phone I was doing my "Click start, now click run it is towards the bottom of the righ hand column of the start menu, do you see the text box?" when she starts giggling. When I asked her what was so funny she started laughing and excalimed "Your using your IT voice on me!" That afternoon I signed up for a free log-me-on account. :rolleyes: :sigh:
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I have my computer setup so when the command line (CMD) comes up it has a black background and green letters. Reminds me of my green screen days writing turbo pascal and batch files.
SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown