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Sony deliberately disables virtualisation on laptops

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    Chris Maunder
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    The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Christian Graus
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

      Yes, I used to buy a lot of Sony gear, but I've not bought anything Sony for a long time.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        JakeSays
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        It's not just Sony. I bought a Gateway (acer) desktop in April - Core2 Quad processor (8200), 8GB ram, 1TB hd, Vista64. A power user's machine, and you would think it'd be VT capable.. but NOOOO!! The settings to enable VT are removed from the BIOS!! I was SOO pissed off when I made that little discovery. Makes it real hard to test on 64bit VM's.

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          The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Bobby Dean
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          I'm over them too ... They are such a greedy organization and want to control and own everything so that every time one of us uses anything we have to pay them ... Well I refuse to buy their products and seeing Bluray is theirs (which if you ask me is another stunt like the 'Beta' tape one) I won't be using it either I'll just wait for the next technology.

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            It's not just Sony. I bought a Gateway (acer) desktop in April - Core2 Quad processor (8200), 8GB ram, 1TB hd, Vista64. A power user's machine, and you would think it'd be VT capable.. but NOOOO!! The settings to enable VT are removed from the BIOS!! I was SOO pissed off when I made that little discovery. Makes it real hard to test on 64bit VM's.

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            Johnno74
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            Not just sony or gateway either. Here at work I've got a HP dx7400 pc, which has a core 2 duo E6550, which definitely supports VT but there is no option to enable it in the bios. Pretty damn shabby.

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              I'm over them too ... They are such a greedy organization and want to control and own everything so that every time one of us uses anything we have to pay them ... Well I refuse to buy their products and seeing Bluray is theirs (which if you ask me is another stunt like the 'Beta' tape one) I won't be using it either I'll just wait for the next technology.

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              Christian Graus
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              How was Beta a stunt ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                How was Beta a stunt ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Bobby Dean
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                It was put on the market as a 'gap' item to make them money and they had no intention of supporting it in the long term the only thing is they forget to tell the public that this is what it was so there was a lot of really peed off people when they pulled the pin ... fortunately I bought VHS ...

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                  It's not just Sony. I bought a Gateway (acer) desktop in April - Core2 Quad processor (8200), 8GB ram, 1TB hd, Vista64. A power user's machine, and you would think it'd be VT capable.. but NOOOO!! The settings to enable VT are removed from the BIOS!! I was SOO pissed off when I made that little discovery. Makes it real hard to test on 64bit VM's.

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                  wwillemse
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                  Core 2 Quad Q8200 does not support VT, so Gateway is not really to blame here....

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                    The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                    I'm amazed it took you this long to notice. We ditched them 5 years ago! :-\

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                      Core 2 Quad Q8200 does not support VT, so Gateway is not really to blame here....

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                      JakeSays
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                      I thought it was only the 8100 that didn't support VT.

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                        I thought it was only the 8100 that didn't support VT.

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                        wwillemse
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                        Q8100 does not exist: http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=All&ProcFam=2774&SearchKey=[^]

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                          Q8100 does not exist: http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=All&ProcFam=2774&SearchKey=[^]

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                          JakeSays
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                          I'll be damned! WTF was I looking at then? Well, hopefully this MB will accept a VT capable processor.

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                            The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Lost User
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                            Sony are getting much more defensive these days, a bad sign.

                            Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                              The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Obliterator
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                              Very annoyed... I just bought a Sony laptop and specifically checked the processor model supported virtualisation. I may well be returning it! Why not just make it a BIOS option? grrrr! Though quite why MS need virtualisation when every other VM works without it is beyond me :)

                              -- The Obliterator

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                                Very annoyed... I just bought a Sony laptop and specifically checked the processor model supported virtualisation. I may well be returning it! Why not just make it a BIOS option? grrrr! Though quite why MS need virtualisation when every other VM works without it is beyond me :)

                                -- The Obliterator

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Because software virtualization sucks golf balls through a garden hose. It's much safer from a PR/CS perspective to set minimum required specs high enough that it works well (when they're readily meetable) than to have it run disgustingly slow in some cases.

                                The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                                  It was put on the market as a 'gap' item to make them money and they had no intention of supporting it in the long term the only thing is they forget to tell the public that this is what it was so there was a lot of really peed off people when they pulled the pin ... fortunately I bought VHS ...

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                                  GStrad
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                                  Think you may have your wires crossed there, it wasn't a gap product, it was an attempt at market domination. JVC looked at the deal and didn't want to get tied in with a similar deal as the Sony uMatic one and developed their own system without the tie ins, this was VHS. VHS won the format war, not the case that Sony deliberately went in with a spoiler tech. They carried on making Beta machines into the early noughties... That said I don't buy Sony stuff (other then my trusty old PS2) because in general it's overpriced and I still have a grudge over the root kit thing...

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                                    Because software virtualization sucks golf balls through a garden hose. It's much safer from a PR/CS perspective to set minimum required specs high enough that it works well (when they're readily meetable) than to have it run disgustingly slow in some cases.

                                    The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                                    Jazne
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                                    I'm not too keen on Sony neither since I tried to restore one of their high end Vaio desktops (OK so it was almost 3 yrs old) only to find that recovery CD's were no longer available. With so much propietary HW & SW, it now joins a landfill.

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                                      The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Joe Woodbury
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                                      Sony used to make high priced, but extremely high quality consumer goods. I have a 10+ year old portable radio/DVD player that has taken an absolute beating, but still works. Their current offerings lack that quality. Unfortunately, I've been hearing this poor quality is seeping into the prosumer and professional video/audio equipment lines. It's a real shame.

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                                        The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Todd Smith
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                                        I stopped supporting Sony after their rootkit fiasco. The problem is that Sony does both content and content players. Their agenda gets conflicted from that situation imho.

                                        Todd Smith

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                                          The same guys who brought you the Sony Rootkit have disabled VT because of 'security concerns'. Sony Laptops Have Hardware Virtualisation Disabled[^] Sony just suck. I'm so over them.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          bdenton42
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                                          Depending on the model you may be able to "fix" it... http://blog.durdle.com/archives/2009/07/30/enable-vt-on-sony-vaio-z11/[^] I don't own a Vaio so I can't vouch for this.

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