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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    William Benton, Assistant U.S. Secretary of State at UNESCO 1946: (UNESCO is the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) “As long as a child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only precarious results. As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism. The schools therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism (nationalism)…we shall presently recognize in nationalism the major obstacle to development of world mindedness. We are at the beginning of a long process of breaking down the walls of national sovereignty. UNESCO must be the pioneer.” (Emphasis mine throughout) Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill (this is absolute proof that man made global warming is a fabrication)…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” Mikhail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.” Aldous Huxley, Brave New World 1946: “There is, of course, no reason why the new totalitarians should resemble the old. Government by clubs and firing squads, by artificial famine, mass imprisonment and mass deportation, is not merely inhumane (nobody cares much about that nowadays); it is demonstrably inefficient and in an age of advanced technology, inefficiency is the sin against the Holy Ghost.” Aldous Huxley, Lecture named Population Explosion 1959: “…Let us ask ourselves what the practical alternatives are as we confront this problem of population growth. One alternative is to do nothing in particular about it and just let things go on as they are…The question is: Are we going to restore the balance in the natural way, which is a brutal and entirely anti-human way, or are we going to restore it in some intelligent, rational, and humane way…Try to increase production as mu

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    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    William Benton, Assistant U.S. Secretary of State at UNESCO 1946: (UNESCO is the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) “As long as a child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only precarious results.

    The key point in this statement is the date: 1946. The world had just had seen the effects of German and Japanese nationalism first hand. This, as you may recall, resulted in the deaths of 60 million people. Obviously with a calamity on that scale still fresh in everyone's mind, they're going to be pretty keen to discourage nationalism and prevent it happening again.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    Aldous Huxley, Brave New World 1946:

    This is a novel. It is a work of fiction. Why did you bother including it?

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    David Rockefeller, 2000: “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

    Do you have a reference for this quote so that we can see the context that it was made in? I stopped reading at that point to be honest.

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      William Benton, Assistant U.S. Secretary of State at UNESCO 1946: (UNESCO is the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) “As long as a child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only precarious results. As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism. The schools therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism (nationalism)…we shall presently recognize in nationalism the major obstacle to development of world mindedness. We are at the beginning of a long process of breaking down the walls of national sovereignty. UNESCO must be the pioneer.” (Emphasis mine throughout) Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill (this is absolute proof that man made global warming is a fabrication)…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” Mikhail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.” Aldous Huxley, Brave New World 1946: “There is, of course, no reason why the new totalitarians should resemble the old. Government by clubs and firing squads, by artificial famine, mass imprisonment and mass deportation, is not merely inhumane (nobody cares much about that nowadays); it is demonstrably inefficient and in an age of advanced technology, inefficiency is the sin against the Holy Ghost.” Aldous Huxley, Lecture named Population Explosion 1959: “…Let us ask ourselves what the practical alternatives are as we confront this problem of population growth. One alternative is to do nothing in particular about it and just let things go on as they are…The question is: Are we going to restore the balance in the natural way, which is a brutal and entirely anti-human way, or are we going to restore it in some intelligent, rational, and humane way…Try to increase production as mu

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      Wow, really boring. :zzz:

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        Wow, really boring. :zzz:

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        Agreed, BORING zzzzzzZZZZZ! However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people. I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

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          Agreed, BORING zzzzzzZZZZZ! However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people. I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

          ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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          Christian Graus
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          Agreed, 200%. We need to stop paying people to breed more welfare mouths to feed. The key point here is that he segues from 'population control' to 'new world order', and they are NOT synonymous, nor is the term 'new world order' synonymous with his conspiracy theories. The point of the flood of quotes is that the site he got it from, puts a lot of quotes in there, in the hope you don't verify them all, or read them all in context.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Agreed, BORING zzzzzzZZZZZ! However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people. I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people.

            Well yeah, and it stands testament to the fact that the government is not sterilising and killing people with vaccines and HAARP.

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

            Probably good ideas.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              William Benton, Assistant U.S. Secretary of State at UNESCO 1946: (UNESCO is the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) “As long as a child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only precarious results. As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism. The schools therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism (nationalism)…we shall presently recognize in nationalism the major obstacle to development of world mindedness. We are at the beginning of a long process of breaking down the walls of national sovereignty. UNESCO must be the pioneer.” (Emphasis mine throughout) Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill (this is absolute proof that man made global warming is a fabrication)…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” Mikhail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.” Aldous Huxley, Brave New World 1946: “There is, of course, no reason why the new totalitarians should resemble the old. Government by clubs and firing squads, by artificial famine, mass imprisonment and mass deportation, is not merely inhumane (nobody cares much about that nowadays); it is demonstrably inefficient and in an age of advanced technology, inefficiency is the sin against the Holy Ghost.” Aldous Huxley, Lecture named Population Explosion 1959: “…Let us ask ourselves what the practical alternatives are as we confront this problem of population growth. One alternative is to do nothing in particular about it and just let things go on as they are…The question is: Are we going to restore the balance in the natural way, which is a brutal and entirely anti-human way, or are we going to restore it in some intelligent, rational, and humane way…Try to increase production as mu

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              That is the longest post I have ever seen on any board any where. I've never had an email even that long before! :doh:

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                That is the longest post I have ever seen on any board any where. I've never had an email even that long before! :doh:

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                He has the time to do that, as he has no life.

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                • W wolfbinary

                  That is the longest post I have ever seen on any board any where. I've never had an email even that long before! :doh:

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                  That's only 9 pages in MS Word in TNR10pt; I've seen far longer on occasion, and from people with functioning minds as well.

                  The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Agreed, 200%. We need to stop paying people to breed more welfare mouths to feed. The key point here is that he segues from 'population control' to 'new world order', and they are NOT synonymous, nor is the term 'new world order' synonymous with his conspiracy theories. The point of the flood of quotes is that the site he got it from, puts a lot of quotes in there, in the hope you don't verify them all, or read them all in context.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    I want you to read the entire document word for word. Just take the 10 minutes needed to thoroughly read it and you will have a much better understanding of the subject of population control and perhaps the world's power structure in general. Now remember, "New World Order" is not a term coined by the so called conspiracy theorists. It is a term heavily used by politicians and the like around the world since the beginning of the 20th century, m'kay?

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      I want you to read the entire document word for word. Just take the 10 minutes needed to thoroughly read it and you will have a much better understanding of the subject of population control and perhaps the world's power structure in general. Now remember, "New World Order" is not a term coined by the so called conspiracy theorists. It is a term heavily used by politicians and the like around the world since the beginning of the 20th century, m'kay?

                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Here's the issue. They didn't mean what you and your conspiracy nuts mean by the term. Here's another. These statements were made in isolation and not designed to be compiled into some sort of treatise, as you're trying to do.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Here's the issue. They didn't mean what you and your conspiracy nuts mean by the term. Here's another. These statements were made in isolation and not designed to be compiled into some sort of treatise, as you're trying to do.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        Well you are just stupid.

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          I want you to read the entire document word for word. Just take the 10 minutes needed to thoroughly read it and you will have a much better understanding of the subject of population control and perhaps the world's power structure in general. Now remember, "New World Order" is not a term coined by the so called conspiracy theorists. It is a term heavily used by politicians and the like around the world since the beginning of the 20th century, m'kay?

                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                          Not as good an understanding as you, surely! :omg:

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Agreed, BORING zzzzzzZZZZZ! However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people. I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

                            ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                            Dickhead Brown throws a lot of the UKs cash at Africa, but no need to worry it will all stop with the Cons land at No. 10.

                            Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              William Benton, Assistant U.S. Secretary of State at UNESCO 1946: (UNESCO is the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) “As long as a child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only precarious results. As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism. The schools therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism (nationalism)…we shall presently recognize in nationalism the major obstacle to development of world mindedness. We are at the beginning of a long process of breaking down the walls of national sovereignty. UNESCO must be the pioneer.” (Emphasis mine throughout) Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill (this is absolute proof that man made global warming is a fabrication)…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” Mikhail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.” Aldous Huxley, Brave New World 1946: “There is, of course, no reason why the new totalitarians should resemble the old. Government by clubs and firing squads, by artificial famine, mass imprisonment and mass deportation, is not merely inhumane (nobody cares much about that nowadays); it is demonstrably inefficient and in an age of advanced technology, inefficiency is the sin against the Holy Ghost.” Aldous Huxley, Lecture named Population Explosion 1959: “…Let us ask ourselves what the practical alternatives are as we confront this problem of population growth. One alternative is to do nothing in particular about it and just let things go on as they are…The question is: Are we going to restore the balance in the natural way, which is a brutal and entirely anti-human way, or are we going to restore it in some intelligent, rational, and humane way…Try to increase production as mu

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                              Good god - do you honestly think anyone is going to waste their time reading all this crap?

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Agreed, BORING zzzzzzZZZZZ! However I agree with the sentiments that there are too many people. I would just say the best solution is to stop giving aid to poor countries unless they begin population control, and impose tariffs on the richer nations unless they have a provable reduction in population. Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it. Doing it this way involves no killing, just not creating more mouths.

                                ------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006

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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Here in UK there is Child Allowance, a benefit paid to those with children. I would rather see Child Tax, if you want to breed, you pay for it.

                                That would create poor families without kids, and large rich families. The poor people are usually the majority, and this proposal wouldn't make it in a democracy. Didn't Plato propose some kind of a rigged lottery?

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                                  Good god - do you honestly think anyone is going to waste their time reading all this crap?

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                                  I give you people video documentaries and you complain about that and ask for text, I give you text and you complain about how much text their is. Good god can't you read a simple 9 page document?

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                                    I give you people video documentaries and you complain about that and ask for text, I give you text and you complain about how much text their is. Good god can't you read a simple 9 page document?

                                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                    I have far better things to do with my time than read some nut's screed.

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                                      I have far better things to do with my time than read some nut's screed.

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                                      LunaticFringe wrote:

                                      I have far better things to do with my time than read some nut's screed.

                                      Yeah, put your head back up your ass. Pathetic. I have presented plenty of hard factual evidence, but you like you keep your head up your ass. :sigh: What a waste. You probably don't have the mental capacity to read a 9 page document.

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                                        LunaticFringe wrote:

                                        I have far better things to do with my time than read some nut's screed.

                                        Yeah, put your head back up your ass. Pathetic. I have presented plenty of hard factual evidence, but you like you keep your head up your ass. :sigh: What a waste. You probably don't have the mental capacity to read a 9 page document.

                                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                        Yeeeaaahhhhh... well, reading extended rants written by the clearly unhinged just isn't my idea of profitable use of my time. Sorry.

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                                          Yeeeaaahhhhh... well, reading extended rants written by the clearly unhinged just isn't my idea of profitable use of my time. Sorry.

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                                          LunaticFringe wrote:

                                          Yeeeaaahhhhh... well, reading extended rants written by the clearly unhinged just isn't my idea of profitable use of my time. Sorry.

                                          You are making false assumptions. It is a collection of quotes from prominent influential men and women and UN treaties and laws pertaining to population controls. If anyone is unhinged it is you, anyone to thinks China's policies are good for anyone is a dangerous lunatic.

                                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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