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  • J Jim SS

    A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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    MidwestLimey
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    • J Jim SS

      A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

      SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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      goodideadave
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      I worked in an office in the 80s where everyone had to take the test and then post their letters next to their desk. I snuck in early one morning and changed this one manager's letters from ENTJ to MORON (I thought it a better fit). Meyers-Briggs has recently reared it's ugly head at my current employer. I see they have catchy names now like Fieldmarshal. When they add Pinhead and Troll, I'll gladly take the test again, and post the results.

      My other signature is witty and insightful.

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      • J Jim SS

        A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

        SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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        Roger Wright
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        I'm not terribly picky, and perfectly comfortable with int i, int j, or int k when initializing a loop.

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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          I'm not terribly picky, and perfectly comfortable with int i, int j, or int k when initializing a loop.

          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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          Jim SS
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          I bet you know why you use i, j or k for loops. :) That really dates us. :-D

          SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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          • J Jim SS

            A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

            SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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            I'm an INTJ.

            If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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            • J Jim SS

              A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

              SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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              Lost User
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              Add me on then, ISTJ Work paid quite a bit to have the lot of us tested, everyone in the department was about the breakdown you see here(except for the desighners). At least these things are fairly accurate.

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              • W Wjousts

                I'm a Libra. It has about as much value as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator.

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                JoeSox
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                Wjousts wrote:

                It has about as much value as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator.

                Not really. MBTI is based from scientific psychology studies.

                Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - Joesox.com

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                • J Jim SS

                  I bet you know why you use i, j or k for loops. :) That really dates us. :-D

                  SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                  Hehehe... Yeah, I guess it does. For me, it's a habit dating from coding FORTRAN II on Hollerith cards. :-O

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  • J Jim SS

                    A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                    Jim (SS) wrote:

                    A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

                    These things should not be used for any managerial purpose, unless it is to change processes to suit employees better. I've written three such tests myself -- for learning preferences, working practices, and a general one. They are the simplest things in the world to develop: 1. Ask a question, with either a boolean or multiple choice answer (if you're good at thinking up such questions, you can have a "don't know" option): Question: Do you eat bananas more than other fruit? Answers: Yes, No, Sometimes. 2. Work out the "score": "Yes" = 2 "No" = 0 "Sometimes" = 1 3. Use the "score" to tell the person what they told you when they answered the question: e.g. if the answer was "Sometimes", respond: "You usually enjoy bananas, but you also eat and enjoy other fruits, and occasionally do not want to eat bananas at all." If you plot out your questions and responses cleverly enough, you can, by retelling people exactly what they have told you, get "miraculous" results, and everyone will think you're very clever for having "scientifically worked out" what they are like and what they like -- but all you do is tell them what they told you (I'm hoping that concept will sink in if I repeat it enough).

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • J JoeSox

                      Wjousts wrote:

                      It has about as much value as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator.

                      Not really. MBTI is based from scientific psychology studies.

                      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - Joesox.com

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                      JoeSox wrote:

                      Not really. MBTI is based from scientific psychology studies.

                      No, it really isn't. It's junk science at it's finest!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        Jim (SS) wrote:

                        A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

                        These things should not be used for any managerial purpose, unless it is to change processes to suit employees better. I've written three such tests myself -- for learning preferences, working practices, and a general one. They are the simplest things in the world to develop: 1. Ask a question, with either a boolean or multiple choice answer (if you're good at thinking up such questions, you can have a "don't know" option): Question: Do you eat bananas more than other fruit? Answers: Yes, No, Sometimes. 2. Work out the "score": "Yes" = 2 "No" = 0 "Sometimes" = 1 3. Use the "score" to tell the person what they told you when they answered the question: e.g. if the answer was "Sometimes", respond: "You usually enjoy bananas, but you also eat and enjoy other fruits, and occasionally do not want to eat bananas at all." If you plot out your questions and responses cleverly enough, you can, by retelling people exactly what they have told you, get "miraculous" results, and everyone will think you're very clever for having "scientifically worked out" what they are like and what they like -- but all you do is tell them what they told you (I'm hoping that concept will sink in if I repeat it enough).

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        Jim SS
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                        That really is all the MBTI does. I know I'm an introvert and the the test told me that. What it did for me is tell me some things that I knew but didn't understand well. I think the perfect use for it is to take all the extroverts and put them in a bullpen, and put all the introverts in offices. That bullpen (for collaboration) versus office (for concentration) controversy continues all over the industry. Some believing that productivity will improve if we do one or the other for all employees. The reality is that each floorplan format works well for some people and terribly for others. Some people are infatuated with one language, while others will program in any language you throw at them. It doesn't mean that one developer is better than the other, it just means that if you or your lead understands that, you can be more productive by choosing the projects wisely with reference to your ability, personality, preferences or any other knowledge that might be applicable. And conversely, if a manager doesn't consider those things, he (generic term for all people) can adversely affect productivity by putting the wrong people together or assigning the wrong project to a person, etc.

                        SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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