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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Judah Himango wrote:

    my guess would be October sometime

    Judging by the quality of beta, do you really think it will be possible? I think there a lot of work that need to be done.

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    Judah Gabriel Himango
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    Woops, I meant to say, Beta 2 will be released in October, not the final. VS2010 RTM will be released spring or summer 2010, is my guess.

    Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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    • K Kevin McFarlane

      I saw something recently which suggested 2010. However, the official launch date can sometimes be several months after RTM. It wasn't clear from what I saw whether they were referring to RTM or Launch.

      Kevin

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      Lisa Sidlow
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      Hi Guys, The Beta 2 Release is currently scheduled for end of October 2009. You will be able to download this right from Code Project. Also, Microsoft's fiscal is July 1st to June 30th so to them, it is 2010 already. Best, Lisa

      Lisa Marie Sidlow

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        I saw something recently which suggested 2010. However, the official launch date can sometimes be several months after RTM. It wasn't clear from what I saw whether they were referring to RTM or Launch.

        Kevin

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        Dan Neely
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        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

        I saw something recently which suggested 2010.

        Would that something be the 2010 in the name? :laugh:

        The latest nation. Procrastination.

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        • L Lisa Sidlow

          Hi Guys, The Beta 2 Release is currently scheduled for end of October 2009. You will be able to download this right from Code Project. Also, Microsoft's fiscal is July 1st to June 30th so to them, it is 2010 already. Best, Lisa

          Lisa Marie Sidlow

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          Nish Nishant
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          Lisa Sidlow wrote:

          Microsoft's fiscal is July 1st to June 30th so to them, it is 2010 already.

          Yeah but the devs there probably don't follow the fiscal year for versioning :-)

          Regards, Nish


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          • P peterchen

            Is there already a planned release date for VS 2010 (apart from the number in the name)?

            Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
            | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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            Brian W King
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            Our CDW rep told us yesterday that MS is now telling them that it will not release until sometime in 2011. Its third hand info however and needs to be taken with a lump of salt.

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            • P peterchen

              Is there already a planned release date for VS 2010 (apart from the number in the name)?

              Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
              | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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              Mario Luis
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              *cough* February 2010 *cough* So mentioned by a microsoft dev at a recent tech-ed.

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              • P peterchen

                Is there already a planned release date for VS 2010 (apart from the number in the name)?

                Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                M Towler
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                I think the more important question is "when will VS2010 SP1 be released - and therefore be ready for production software?" ;) My guess is April 2010 for the release, and January 2011 for SP1.

                modified on Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:20 AM

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                • M M Towler

                  I think the more important question is "when will VS2010 SP1 be released - and therefore be ready for production software?" ;) My guess is April 2010 for the release, and January 2011 for SP1.

                  modified on Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:20 AM

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                  u0m3
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                  How can the release be after the SP1?

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                    How can the release be after the SP1?

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                    By the gift of typographical errors! Now fixed.

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                    • P peterchen

                      Is there already a planned release date for VS 2010 (apart from the number in the name)?

                      Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                      | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                      MS has an internal release date for 2010 that they've mentioned to the few outsiders close to the project. However it is under NDA so if anybody outside MS gives you any release date beyond a guess then they will lose their NDA status. You'll also get a visit from some gentlemen wearing black MS shirts :} VS2010 will release in 2010 without a doubt (IMO). Watching the communications from MS it is obvious that the feature set of 2010 is solidified and mostly working. MS is working on getting things working correctly, fixing known bugs and, of course, trying to optimize performance which seems to be the current hotspot for the release. So if you are hoping to get any new features into 2010 then you're out of luck at this point. MS has changed from "what do you want to see" to "what feature, if missing, will cause you not to upgrade" mode. This is a sign that the featureset is locked. Unless you're a major dev team with MS you aren't getting any new features (and even then they are pushing a lot of things off). Beta2 is scheduled for release in the Fall. If MS follows practice then you can expect this to be the last public demo of VS before the release (although they might do a short RC cycle to select customers). Beta1 was horribly broken with many features either missing or disabled. As such it doesn't paint a good picture of VS2010's state. Beta2 is suppose to have all features added and enabled. Once we get our hands on it I think we can start estimating a more accurate schedule. In B2 mode MS is going to be looking for feedback on what doesn't work correctly. At this point it boils down to how fast the devs can fix the issues. If you assume a standard turnaround time for B2 fixes then a release by late Spring or early Summer of 2010 is in the ballpark to me. However if B2 proves to be a diaster like B1 then it is likely to slip until the Fall. We'll know more shortly after B2. After the final release you can probably expect a SP1 release 9-12 months later if MS follows practice. What makes VS such a hard product to build and update is that many of MS'es other tools rely on it and some of them are real picky. SQL Server is notorius for compatibility with VS as is SharePoint. These products do not fall under the VS team's control so they have to coordinate schedules with the other teams for the release and any patches.

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                        MS has an internal release date for 2010 that they've mentioned to the few outsiders close to the project. However it is under NDA so if anybody outside MS gives you any release date beyond a guess then they will lose their NDA status. You'll also get a visit from some gentlemen wearing black MS shirts :} VS2010 will release in 2010 without a doubt (IMO). Watching the communications from MS it is obvious that the feature set of 2010 is solidified and mostly working. MS is working on getting things working correctly, fixing known bugs and, of course, trying to optimize performance which seems to be the current hotspot for the release. So if you are hoping to get any new features into 2010 then you're out of luck at this point. MS has changed from "what do you want to see" to "what feature, if missing, will cause you not to upgrade" mode. This is a sign that the featureset is locked. Unless you're a major dev team with MS you aren't getting any new features (and even then they are pushing a lot of things off). Beta2 is scheduled for release in the Fall. If MS follows practice then you can expect this to be the last public demo of VS before the release (although they might do a short RC cycle to select customers). Beta1 was horribly broken with many features either missing or disabled. As such it doesn't paint a good picture of VS2010's state. Beta2 is suppose to have all features added and enabled. Once we get our hands on it I think we can start estimating a more accurate schedule. In B2 mode MS is going to be looking for feedback on what doesn't work correctly. At this point it boils down to how fast the devs can fix the issues. If you assume a standard turnaround time for B2 fixes then a release by late Spring or early Summer of 2010 is in the ballpark to me. However if B2 proves to be a diaster like B1 then it is likely to slip until the Fall. We'll know more shortly after B2. After the final release you can probably expect a SP1 release 9-12 months later if MS follows practice. What makes VS such a hard product to build and update is that many of MS'es other tools rely on it and some of them are real picky. SQL Server is notorius for compatibility with VS as is SharePoint. These products do not fall under the VS team's control so they have to coordinate schedules with the other teams for the release and any patches.

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                        Thank you very much - I guess that is the best Information I can get at the moment. Looks like we will update to VS 2009 first.

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                        | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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