Normandy Then and Now
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Thats probably the only thing good thing about war, the rebuild process.
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Thanks, that is a very interesting link. It shows a (still) living history. I am of course too young, but my grandfather was there, He came in on the second day, and was not subjected to the hell of the first. (Gotta say it, the Americans did get the shit end of that particular stick). He fought there for about a month before being injured out back to Blighty, thankfully not too seriously, although he maintains that the shrapnel in his leg was so small it could have been pulled out with tweezers, I have seen the scar and it is quite substantial. I have given a 5 for the link :thumbsup:
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Thanks, that is a very interesting link. It shows a (still) living history. I am of course too young, but my grandfather was there, He came in on the second day, and was not subjected to the hell of the first. (Gotta say it, the Americans did get the shit end of that particular stick). He fought there for about a month before being injured out back to Blighty, thankfully not too seriously, although he maintains that the shrapnel in his leg was so small it could have been pulled out with tweezers, I have seen the scar and it is quite substantial. I have given a 5 for the link :thumbsup:
------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006
Only those at Omaha, Utah was the easiest of all the beaches. and Omaha was allot harder than it should have been a lot of bad decisions where taken that day that caused Omaha to be a damn site harder than it should have been, Please do not think I am disparaging the soldiers involved, as usual it was the bravery of the tommy an GI that made it all possible despite the efforts of some senior officers, like the burke on Omaha who redirected the bombers to bomb inland of the beach instead of the beach defenses as was planned I lost a Grandfather at sword in the first wave and had a father in law land in the second wave, he always said that his regiment suffered a bigger loss rate during D day than did his father's did at the Somme, yet everyone remembers the Somme as a huge loss in human lives not the British during D day - just the US losses on Omaha.
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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We regularly visit Normandy - in fact, we would love to buy a decent property there. A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals - I'll say this for America, they give good monument. If you get the chance, go and visit Arromanches. They keep a lot there from the war, and the Arromanches 360 is a fantastic experience. It's very loud, but well worth it - and go down to the beach after viewing this. It was strange building sand castles with the kids in the shadow of the Mulberries.
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We regularly visit Normandy - in fact, we would love to buy a decent property there. A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals - I'll say this for America, they give good monument. If you get the chance, go and visit Arromanches. They keep a lot there from the war, and the Arromanches 360 is a fantastic experience. It's very loud, but well worth it - and go down to the beach after viewing this. It was strange building sand castles with the kids in the shadow of the Mulberries.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
+1 on the Cemetery at Omaha and +1 on Arromanches too. What I thought was cool was when my wife and I were visiting to monuments at Ponte du Hoc (I think) back in '93 we saw a two bridal parties (complete with brides) running up and down the fortifications. That was nice to see - the younger generation, just starting their lives - remembering the sacrafices of the older generations.
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Wow after all these years and looks the same, rebuilt and newer but the same. Thanks for the link, Mike
"It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.
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majee wrote:
Does anyone have reminiscences?
Nope two generations to late for that. Both Grandfathers were English and fought in Europe and Africa but we knoe virtually nothing about my father's father's war. Many times while visiting Europe I've stood on a street corner and thought about what might have happened there during the occupation and liberation.
I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me
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Wow after all these years and looks the same, rebuilt and newer but the same. Thanks for the link, Mike
"It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.
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We regularly visit Normandy - in fact, we would love to buy a decent property there. A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals - I'll say this for America, they give good monument. If you get the chance, go and visit Arromanches. They keep a lot there from the war, and the Arromanches 360 is a fantastic experience. It's very loud, but well worth it - and go down to the beach after viewing this. It was strange building sand castles with the kids in the shadow of the Mulberries.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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We regularly visit Normandy - in fact, we would love to buy a decent property there. A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals - I'll say this for America, they give good monument. If you get the chance, go and visit Arromanches. They keep a lot there from the war, and the Arromanches 360 is a fantastic experience. It's very loud, but well worth it - and go down to the beach after viewing this. It was strange building sand castles with the kids in the shadow of the Mulberries.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
I had an interview for a job in Cambridge once and stayed at a B&B. As I drove there I went along a road and noticed a plain wall with a brass plaque which explained behind the wall were the graves of the US bomber crews who never made it home. Many were under 20 :rose:
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We regularly visit Normandy - in fact, we would love to buy a decent property there. A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals - I'll say this for America, they give good monument. If you get the chance, go and visit Arromanches. They keep a lot there from the war, and the Arromanches 360 is a fantastic experience. It's very loud, but well worth it - and go down to the beach after viewing this. It was strange building sand castles with the kids in the shadow of the Mulberries.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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A couple of years ago we took the kids to the American Military Cemetery for the first time - it's an incredibly moving experience. The graves with no names really give you a kick in the emotionals
I visited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial[^] shortly after the Wall's construction was completed. It's a very emotionally-charged place. I saw one man, dressed in a Marine uniform, walk stiffly up to a specific point in the Wall. He turned and saluted a spot on the wall for a few seconds. He then turned and marched back toward where we were standing. Only then did I see the tears running down his face.
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