I'm I a conspiracy theorist now? [modified]
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
To think we have mined all of the metals is ridiculous, it just takes more effort to get to it
This is an example of the same ignorance that leads you to think that the earth can feed an infinite number of people. Man has sought gold for how long now, and we just didn't bother to try hard enough. The people mining gold today, are all stupid, if only they were smarter, we'd have an infinite supply.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The people mining gold today, are all stupid
You are a fucking moron. The people mining gold today wouldn't be mining gold if they weren't finding enough gold to profit from it. You are goddamn stupid.
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Christian Graus wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: It doesn't guarantee anything OK.
No no, let me go through this again. It doesn't guarantee anything but the consolidation of power on a global scale So in other words it most certainly guarantees the consolidation of power on a global scale.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, people who are trapped in debt, will be trapped in debt no matter what the currency is.
Again, this is not personal credit card debt we are talking about. This is national debt that the tax-payers have to pay. They have to pay for the money that was stolen from them by inflation, by the central bank printing up money and loaning it out as if that bank actually earned that money. They have to pay the bank back the money that the bank stole from them.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, this is kind of true. Whoever prints currency, by printing it, devalues the currency out there. That's just how it works. The key is for it to be done responsibily
Kind of? IT IS. It is not done responsibly, that is why the value of the dollar has dropped by 95% since the fed's inception and that is why it is completely going down the gutter right now. This is why it is a bad idea and is not intelligent whatsoever for anyone to endorse this giant ponzi scheme debt monster.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes. banks make their money by charging more interest than they pay
99.9 percent of all banks in the world have to earn their money by attracting investors and debtors. Central banks just print it (stealing, devaluing) and loan it out to the select few.
Christian Graus wrote:
why was this system set up ? Assuming that your country is a slave to this body, why was this allowed ?
On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act, also known as the Glass-Owen Bill, was passed. The Republican controlled Senate rammed the bill through when many members of the US Congress were home for the holiday. The President, Dr. Thomas Woodrow Wilson, signed it into law one hour after being passed by the Congress! Somebody very powerful really wanted this law passed. The Federal Reserve System is an independent central bank. Although the President of the United States appoints the chairman of the Fed, and
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in other words it most certainly guarantees the consolidation of power on a global scale.
How/why ? If the way my money looks changes tomorrow, how would that change my life ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They have to pay the bank back the money that the bank stole from them.
Ah, I see it so clearly now. The bank stole from them, and they have to pay it back. And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that is why the value of the dollar has dropped by 95% since the fed's inception
You don't understand economics at all, do you ? Inflation is caused by people wanting more, not by any loans that occur from the reserve.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
"Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice".
So you copied and pasted this off the web. Do you understand it ? Seems like a lot of conjecture to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
t was sold to the public by claiming that it is necessary to prevent a depression, well, that didn't work out too well did it?
Nor did the recent attempts to stop our current mess. That doesn't mean that wasn't the goal.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in other words it most certainly guarantees the consolidation of power on a global scale.
How/why ? If the way my money looks changes tomorrow, how would that change my life ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They have to pay the bank back the money that the bank stole from them.
Ah, I see it so clearly now. The bank stole from them, and they have to pay it back. And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that is why the value of the dollar has dropped by 95% since the fed's inception
You don't understand economics at all, do you ? Inflation is caused by people wanting more, not by any loans that occur from the reserve.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
"Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice".
So you copied and pasted this off the web. Do you understand it ? Seems like a lot of conjecture to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
t was sold to the public by claiming that it is necessary to prevent a depression, well, that didn't work out too well did it?
Nor did the recent attempts to stop our current mess. That doesn't mean that wasn't the goal.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How/why ?
It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever.
Christian Graus wrote:
And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized . . . The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power . . . The worst legislative crime of the ages is p
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Christian Graus wrote:
The people mining gold today, are all stupid
You are a fucking moron. The people mining gold today wouldn't be mining gold if they weren't finding enough gold to profit from it. You are goddamn stupid.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The people mining gold today wouldn't be mining gold if they weren't finding enough gold to profit from it.
I never claimed that. I just said that the way they do it, is to crush a whole lot of rock to find little gold, b/c that's all there is left to dig up, They plainly make a profit at it. The price just goes up accordingly, just like oil.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Gold is not 'useful' when used as money
Money is not useful? You are a fucking clown.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Money is not useful?
Money has it's own intrinsic 'use' which has nothing to do with the value of the object. If I say a piece of gold is worth $100, or I say a piece of paper is worth $100, the money itself doesn't HAVE to be worth that, and even if it is, it's value is held in statis, the gold is not DOING anything useful, such as acting as a conductor, if it's being used as money. you are just dense.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How/why ?
It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever.
Christian Graus wrote:
And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized . . . The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power . . . The worst legislative crime of the ages is p
Well, I can see that your copy and paste keys work. So, why did they fail you when I tried to discuss the other issues you raised yesterday ? Are you still incapable of discussing those things ? Do you admit to not having a clue what the things you were copying and pasting meant ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Money is not useful?
Money has it's own intrinsic 'use' which has nothing to do with the value of the object. If I say a piece of gold is worth $100, or I say a piece of paper is worth $100, the money itself doesn't HAVE to be worth that, and even if it is, it's value is held in statis, the gold is not DOING anything useful, such as acting as a conductor, if it's being used as money. you are just dense.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
If I say a piece of gold is worth $100,
Gold's value is not dictated.
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Well, I can see that your copy and paste keys work. So, why did they fail you when I tried to discuss the other issues you raised yesterday ? Are you still incapable of discussing those things ? Do you admit to not having a clue what the things you were copying and pasting meant ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You are a fucking idiot. I laid it all out perfectly clear for you. Perhaps I need to repeat some things. These are all my own words. Do you understand them? " It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever." - CaptainSeeSharp You asked me And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ? and I replied with a list of prominent people who have noticed it and spoke out against it. Let me repost that list for you. The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be lega
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Christian Graus wrote:
If I say a piece of gold is worth $100,
Gold's value is not dictated.
you are a moron. Assuming that I take the amount of gold that is worth $100, what use is it doing to me, apart from being money ? How is it more useful than a piece of paper ? The value of gold changes daily, how could I have $100 in gold, from day to day ?
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My dad is working in collaboration with a Canadian company on "Ocean mining". Its supposedly the next big thing. Basically, recovery of dissolved salts in the ocean which includes everything.
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To get minerals out of them ?
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You are a fucking idiot. I laid it all out perfectly clear for you. Perhaps I need to repeat some things. These are all my own words. Do you understand them? " It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever." - CaptainSeeSharp You asked me And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ? and I replied with a list of prominent people who have noticed it and spoke out against it. Let me repost that list for you. The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be lega
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I understand perfectly what I am discussing, do you understand?
I understand that there is no way you wrote this, and that you seem to have a deeper well of online resources regarding money, that's why you ran like a scared chicken when I took up your offer to discuss other things.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
In 1928, the House Hearings on the Stabilization of the Purchasing Power disclosed evidence the Federal Reserve was working closely with the heads of the European banks. The committee warned a major crash had been planned in 1927. HISTORY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!
The committee warned in 1928 that a crash was planned in 1927 ? Wow, they must have super powers.
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you are a moron. Assuming that I take the amount of gold that is worth $100, what use is it doing to me, apart from being money ? How is it more useful than a piece of paper ? The value of gold changes daily, how could I have $100 in gold, from day to day ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
what use is it doing to me
It is storing your wealth. That is pretty darn useful.
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Christian Graus wrote:
what use is it doing to me
It is storing your wealth. That is pretty darn useful.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is storing your wealth
But, the price of gold can change. So, it's not really that much different from a banknote, in the sense that it is worth a certain level of goods, only by mutual agreement. I agree that gold is safer than banknotes, in extreme circumstances, but I doubt you understand fully what you're discussing.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is storing your wealth
But, the price of gold can change. So, it's not really that much different from a banknote, in the sense that it is worth a certain level of goods, only by mutual agreement. I agree that gold is safer than banknotes, in extreme circumstances, but I doubt you understand fully what you're discussing.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience. I do get the feeling that you have a pretty difficult time comprehending it though.
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I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience. I do get the feeling that you have a pretty difficult time comprehending it though.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience.
Your "I'm trying to appear intellectual" language is fucking hilarious.
I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Think "marginal cost of extraction".
It would be good for the economy. Good for jobs that produce something real and useful, and provides a good check to inflation since mining efforts would only be profitable when demand for it is high.
What does inflation have to do with mining gold? Or what does mining gold have to do with inflation? Do you know what inflation is? Do you even know what causes inflation?
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What does inflation have to do with mining gold? Or what does mining gold have to do with inflation? Do you know what inflation is? Do you even know what causes inflation?
I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
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I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
Stop dodging the questions. You're supposedly "all about facts", so state them. I asked you how a gold currency will check inflation. Explain the mechanism. You can first start by defining what you think inflation is. Then you can discuss the transmission mechanism. And no, I'm not a money manager, I work for the ECB.