I'm I a conspiracy theorist now? [modified]
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in other words it most certainly guarantees the consolidation of power on a global scale.
How/why ? If the way my money looks changes tomorrow, how would that change my life ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They have to pay the bank back the money that the bank stole from them.
Ah, I see it so clearly now. The bank stole from them, and they have to pay it back. And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that is why the value of the dollar has dropped by 95% since the fed's inception
You don't understand economics at all, do you ? Inflation is caused by people wanting more, not by any loans that occur from the reserve.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
"Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice".
So you copied and pasted this off the web. Do you understand it ? Seems like a lot of conjecture to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
t was sold to the public by claiming that it is necessary to prevent a depression, well, that didn't work out too well did it?
Nor did the recent attempts to stop our current mess. That doesn't mean that wasn't the goal.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How/why ?
It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever.
Christian Graus wrote:
And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized . . . The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power . . . The worst legislative crime of the ages is p
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Christian Graus wrote:
The people mining gold today, are all stupid
You are a fucking moron. The people mining gold today wouldn't be mining gold if they weren't finding enough gold to profit from it. You are goddamn stupid.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The people mining gold today wouldn't be mining gold if they weren't finding enough gold to profit from it.
I never claimed that. I just said that the way they do it, is to crush a whole lot of rock to find little gold, b/c that's all there is left to dig up, They plainly make a profit at it. The price just goes up accordingly, just like oil.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Gold is not 'useful' when used as money
Money is not useful? You are a fucking clown.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Money is not useful?
Money has it's own intrinsic 'use' which has nothing to do with the value of the object. If I say a piece of gold is worth $100, or I say a piece of paper is worth $100, the money itself doesn't HAVE to be worth that, and even if it is, it's value is held in statis, the gold is not DOING anything useful, such as acting as a conductor, if it's being used as money. you are just dense.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How/why ?
It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever.
Christian Graus wrote:
And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ?
The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized . . . The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power . . . The worst legislative crime of the ages is p
Well, I can see that your copy and paste keys work. So, why did they fail you when I tried to discuss the other issues you raised yesterday ? Are you still incapable of discussing those things ? Do you admit to not having a clue what the things you were copying and pasting meant ?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Money is not useful?
Money has it's own intrinsic 'use' which has nothing to do with the value of the object. If I say a piece of gold is worth $100, or I say a piece of paper is worth $100, the money itself doesn't HAVE to be worth that, and even if it is, it's value is held in statis, the gold is not DOING anything useful, such as acting as a conductor, if it's being used as money. you are just dense.
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Christian Graus wrote:
If I say a piece of gold is worth $100,
Gold's value is not dictated.
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Well, I can see that your copy and paste keys work. So, why did they fail you when I tried to discuss the other issues you raised yesterday ? Are you still incapable of discussing those things ? Do you admit to not having a clue what the things you were copying and pasting meant ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You are a fucking idiot. I laid it all out perfectly clear for you. Perhaps I need to repeat some things. These are all my own words. Do you understand them? " It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever." - CaptainSeeSharp You asked me And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ? and I replied with a list of prominent people who have noticed it and spoke out against it. Let me repost that list for you. The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be lega
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Christian Graus wrote:
If I say a piece of gold is worth $100,
Gold's value is not dictated.
you are a moron. Assuming that I take the amount of gold that is worth $100, what use is it doing to me, apart from being money ? How is it more useful than a piece of paper ? The value of gold changes daily, how could I have $100 in gold, from day to day ?
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My dad is working in collaboration with a Canadian company on "Ocean mining". Its supposedly the next big thing. Basically, recovery of dissolved salts in the ocean which includes everything.
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To get minerals out of them ?
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You are a fucking idiot. I laid it all out perfectly clear for you. Perhaps I need to repeat some things. These are all my own words. Do you understand them? " It is a global scheme of a currency system, controlled by an international institution(s). All the currencies in the world will be subjected to the intervention of the international body(s). It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It does a great deal at eroding the sovereignty of all nations through the management of their currencies by global minded powers. It is a consolidation of power. We all know by now that through the manipulation of the dollar and other currencies, our economy has been destroyed and almost all people have been robbed of their wealth and have been enslaved by the national debt. Ninety-Five percent of the value of the dollar has been lost since the establishment of the federal reserve. Now we are going to go to a consolidated global scheme? bullsh*t on that. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that it is a good thing, because it simply isn't good to consolidate power like that. There is no reason for anyone to have that kind of power for any reason whatsoever." - CaptainSeeSharp You asked me And no-one but a few online crackpots have noticed this ? and I replied with a list of prominent people who have noticed it and spoke out against it. Let me repost that list for you. The first witness to be called is Abraham Lincoln. He warned, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed." Congressman Wright Patman decared, "In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." Congressman Charles Lindbergh maintained, "Our financial system is a false one and a huge burden on the people . . . The Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be lega
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I understand perfectly what I am discussing, do you understand?
I understand that there is no way you wrote this, and that you seem to have a deeper well of online resources regarding money, that's why you ran like a scared chicken when I took up your offer to discuss other things.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
In 1928, the House Hearings on the Stabilization of the Purchasing Power disclosed evidence the Federal Reserve was working closely with the heads of the European banks. The committee warned a major crash had been planned in 1927. HISTORY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!
The committee warned in 1928 that a crash was planned in 1927 ? Wow, they must have super powers.
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you are a moron. Assuming that I take the amount of gold that is worth $100, what use is it doing to me, apart from being money ? How is it more useful than a piece of paper ? The value of gold changes daily, how could I have $100 in gold, from day to day ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
what use is it doing to me
It is storing your wealth. That is pretty darn useful.
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Christian Graus wrote:
what use is it doing to me
It is storing your wealth. That is pretty darn useful.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is storing your wealth
But, the price of gold can change. So, it's not really that much different from a banknote, in the sense that it is worth a certain level of goods, only by mutual agreement. I agree that gold is safer than banknotes, in extreme circumstances, but I doubt you understand fully what you're discussing.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is storing your wealth
But, the price of gold can change. So, it's not really that much different from a banknote, in the sense that it is worth a certain level of goods, only by mutual agreement. I agree that gold is safer than banknotes, in extreme circumstances, but I doubt you understand fully what you're discussing.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience. I do get the feeling that you have a pretty difficult time comprehending it though.
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I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience. I do get the feeling that you have a pretty difficult time comprehending it though.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I understand what I am discussing with extreme precision and concise conscience.
Your "I'm trying to appear intellectual" language is fucking hilarious.
I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Think "marginal cost of extraction".
It would be good for the economy. Good for jobs that produce something real and useful, and provides a good check to inflation since mining efforts would only be profitable when demand for it is high.
What does inflation have to do with mining gold? Or what does mining gold have to do with inflation? Do you know what inflation is? Do you even know what causes inflation?
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What does inflation have to do with mining gold? Or what does mining gold have to do with inflation? Do you know what inflation is? Do you even know what causes inflation?
I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
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I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
Stop dodging the questions. You're supposedly "all about facts", so state them. I asked you how a gold currency will check inflation. Explain the mechanism. You can first start by defining what you think inflation is. Then you can discuss the transmission mechanism. And no, I'm not a money manager, I work for the ECB.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I was discussing how inflation would be checked if gold and silver was the world's currency. Aren't you supposed to be some kind of economist or money manager? I don't like going through this several times over. I'm well versed in banking and economics, so I will dig into it once again after I get some sleep.
Stop dodging the questions. You're supposedly "all about facts", so state them. I asked you how a gold currency will check inflation. Explain the mechanism. You can first start by defining what you think inflation is. Then you can discuss the transmission mechanism. And no, I'm not a money manager, I work for the ECB.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Stop dodging the questions. You're supposedly "all about facts", so state them.
Fine, after this I'm going to bed.
73Zeppelin wrote:
I asked you how a gold currency will check inflation. Explain the mechanism. You can first start by defining what you think inflation is. Then you can discuss the transmission mechanism.
The value of gold and silver goes up as demand for it increases and as demand increases, so does the profitability of mining more gold and silver. To think we have mined all of the metals is ridiculous, it just takes more effort to get to it. It works out well. Perhaps 0.01 will be worth 25 cents but that is the way it used to be. Inflation is the devaluation of the currency. Inflation is caused by an over abundance of the currency. Gold and silver not only puts a check on the type of inflation we see with the dollar and other currencies by limiting the supply, but it also liberates us from the grip of the current monetary powers and does a great deal at getting rid of the type of corruption that grows around them. For example, people are trapped into the debt circle as central banks such as the federal reserve and the bank of england have always done. The central bank acts as a independent institution that controls the monetary system of the nation it represents. The central bank loans the money that it makes out of thin air (devaluing the currency, taking from people's hard earned savings) and loans that out with interest to other banks, corporations (bonds) and the government (treasuries). It acts as a independent governmental body that governs and manipulates the economy and funds itself by printing its money and also using that money to collect interest (a tax so to speak). As we can clearly see with the federal reserve, it is extremely secretive about its operations. You have to remember that every single dollar in circulation must be paid back to the federal reserve with interest. As you can imagine, it is impossible without taking another loan from the central bank to pay off the old loan. The value of the dollar has decreased by 95% since the inception of the federal reserve. Any money that you save gets devalued (stolen) right out of your pocket. Its modern slavery. A famous quote by Abraham Lincoln: "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been
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