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Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

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    Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

    If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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      Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

      If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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      Roger Wright
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      I can't say that any language has had that effect on me, but I know that once I left behind childrens' science and arithmetic for physics and calculus, the Universe changed. It became a fascinating, dynamic place full of rythms and patterns, always in motion, that allowed me to see a far different existence than most of my friends perceived. That made conversation a bit strained at times, until I learned to dumb down things to a mundane level for normal day to day discussions. Of course, now that I'm old, I'm more boring and mundane, so it all worked out. The perceptions are still vivid, but I no longer have the mathematical skills to express them properly. That makes everyone much happier all around. :-D No shrink is necessary - just try to keep the conversation at a level of abstraction suitable for your audience, and save the interesting bits for conversations here among your peers.

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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        Ray Cassick
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        Not really any specific language in general, but rather the process of programming has done this to me. Once you learn programming you never look at the world, or a problem, the same way again. I tend to just think that everyone sees things the way I do now and it can be problematic.


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          Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

          If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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          Java rots my brain.... :laugh: Sorry. I don't suppose that's what you meant. :)

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          • L leonej_dt

            Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

            If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            leonej_dt wrote:

            First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say.

            Since when did weirdness have to be excused in the Lounge? ;P

            leonej_dt wrote:

            Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

            No.

            Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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              I can't say that any language has had that effect on me, but I know that once I left behind childrens' science and arithmetic for physics and calculus, the Universe changed. It became a fascinating, dynamic place full of rythms and patterns, always in motion, that allowed me to see a far different existence than most of my friends perceived. That made conversation a bit strained at times, until I learned to dumb down things to a mundane level for normal day to day discussions. Of course, now that I'm old, I'm more boring and mundane, so it all worked out. The perceptions are still vivid, but I no longer have the mathematical skills to express them properly. That makes everyone much happier all around. :-D No shrink is necessary - just try to keep the conversation at a level of abstraction suitable for your audience, and save the interesting bits for conversations here among your peers.

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              leonej_dt
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              Yes, physics and calculus are fascinating as well... and they would have caused me the same problems were my parents not chemical engineers.

              If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                leonej_dt wrote:

                First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say.

                Since when did weirdness have to be excused in the Lounge? ;P

                leonej_dt wrote:

                Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

                No.

                Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                leonej_dt
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                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                leonej_dt wrote: Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life? No.

                Lucky you!

                If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                • L leonej_dt

                  Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                  If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  I'm alright in this regard, just so you know! ;P

                  A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                  • L leonej_dt

                    Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                    If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    It's not the programming language per se that is affecting your thought processes. It's programming in general that does that to you.

                    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                    • L leonej_dt

                      Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                      If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                      Chris Austin
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                      No. I've never experienced this.

                      leonej_dt wrote:

                      Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair?

                      I assume you are being facetious but, of course not.

                      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                      • L leonej_dt

                        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                        User 3824460
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                        Not programming language actually.. But once, I was sitting next to the computer and scribbling something on paper. I made a mistake on paper and was trying to correct it by hitting CTRL + Z on the keyboard ;P

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                          Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                          If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          I guess learning about OO design had that sort of effect on me - I tend to presume that as it seems the most obvious way of reasoning about a system to me, other people will think the same way - and of course, they don't necessarily... In terms of languages, the one that affected the way I think the most was Haskell[^] - but that was in terms of how I think about programming - the way I implemented things in C++ changed big time once I started to understand what Haskell and functional programming were really about.

                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                            Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                            If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                            John Oxley
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                            Regular Expressions. I tend to "see" matches for certain groups of items, for example, shopping. /.*milk.*/i Whenever someone says something thought provoking, my mind starts making up regex's that will match various parts of the statement. And after a sixpack or 2, my mates aren't really sure what I mean when I slurr "slash whack dee plus slash beer".

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                              Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                              If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                              If true in my life then no one has commented on it so far; else it would have imapcted my writing ability; or altered the way I think. While I do consider a problem algorithmically until the process has completed I usually return a valid result.

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                                If true in my life then no one has commented on it so far; else it would have imapcted my writing ability; or altered the way I think. While I do consider a problem algorithmically until the process has completed I usually return a valid result.

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                                :laugh: Gets my 5.

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                                  Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                  If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                  0x3c0
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                                  Yes. I don't tend to think in words now, just abstract classes and semicolons. I don't know whether to be very happy (I'm a little better at programming because of it) or annoyed (it sometimes annoys my family)

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                                    Regular Expressions. I tend to "see" matches for certain groups of items, for example, shopping. /.*milk.*/i Whenever someone says something thought provoking, my mind starts making up regex's that will match various parts of the statement. And after a sixpack or 2, my mates aren't really sure what I mean when I slurr "slash whack dee plus slash beer".

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                                    Oyvind Sean Kinsey
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                                    Maybe not a programming issue, but still - when ending IM-conversations, I find that I keep writing 'exit'. So far I have realized that I was using the 'wrong syntax' before pressing enter..

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                                      Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                      If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                      dwales
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                                      Yes, all of them. Programming is real life isn't it?

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                                        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                        Tom Deketelaere
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                                        Not a language but more the whole of programming has effected me. I tend to approach a problem in 'real' life just as I approach a problem in a program. Identify the problem --> divide it into smaller easier problems until solved. It's driving my parents mad, but I don't have any problems with it ;P

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                                          Not programming language actually.. But once, I was sitting next to the computer and scribbling something on paper. I made a mistake on paper and was trying to correct it by hitting CTRL + Z on the keyboard ;P

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                                          You're no alone there. I've tried to press the power button by clicking on it. Fortunately nobody saw :doh:

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