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  • K Kevin McFarlane

    "Despite Google Docs' growth, Microsoft Office's use in the workplace was essentially unchanged in this survey, with more than 97% reporting that Office remains widely used, indicating that workers are using both tools. But Webster said Google Docs may cannibalize Microsoft"s opportunity around its own Web-based tools, said Webster." Google Docs 'widely used' at 1-in-5 workplaces, reports survey[^] A while back I contracted at a site (small biz) where they were using both Google Docs and Office. At the time I left they were discussing dumping Office or at least reducing the licences. It will be interesting to see how Office 2010 Cloud stacks up next year. Apparently the cloud will not be restricted to MS data centers, businesses can use their own.

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    Brady Kelly
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    Kevin McFarlane wrote:

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    I've just jumped into the the arms of OpenOffice, driven by a lack of MS Office coupled with the sadness of Google docs.

    I have been trying for weeks to get this little site indexed. If you wonder what it is, or would like some informal accommodation for the 2010 World Cup, please click on this link for Rhino Cottages.

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    • K Kevin McFarlane

      "Despite Google Docs' growth, Microsoft Office's use in the workplace was essentially unchanged in this survey, with more than 97% reporting that Office remains widely used, indicating that workers are using both tools. But Webster said Google Docs may cannibalize Microsoft"s opportunity around its own Web-based tools, said Webster." Google Docs 'widely used' at 1-in-5 workplaces, reports survey[^] A while back I contracted at a site (small biz) where they were using both Google Docs and Office. At the time I left they were discussing dumping Office or at least reducing the licences. It will be interesting to see how Office 2010 Cloud stacks up next year. Apparently the cloud will not be restricted to MS data centers, businesses can use their own.

      Kevin

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      elektrowolf
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      I cannot unterstand how a company can rely on Google Docs? Cloud computing is a great idea, but storing company data on a foreign server, where you cannot verify the backup and protection? I also find the people paranoid how think that Google is the evil company who stores everyone's data and does bad things with it. But I would be more careful with company data.

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        "Despite Google Docs' growth, Microsoft Office's use in the workplace was essentially unchanged in this survey, with more than 97% reporting that Office remains widely used, indicating that workers are using both tools. But Webster said Google Docs may cannibalize Microsoft"s opportunity around its own Web-based tools, said Webster." Google Docs 'widely used' at 1-in-5 workplaces, reports survey[^] A while back I contracted at a site (small biz) where they were using both Google Docs and Office. At the time I left they were discussing dumping Office or at least reducing the licences. It will be interesting to see how Office 2010 Cloud stacks up next year. Apparently the cloud will not be restricted to MS data centers, businesses can use their own.

        Kevin

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        Dan Neely
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        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

        It will be interesting to see how Office 2010 Cloud stacks up next year. Apparently the cloud will not be restricted to MS data centers, businesses can use their own.

        AFAIK it's tied into SharedPointOfFailure, so the only good I see coming out of it is that SPOF will hopefully suck less in browsers that are not IE.

        The latest nation. Procrastination.

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        • E elektrowolf

          I cannot unterstand how a company can rely on Google Docs? Cloud computing is a great idea, but storing company data on a foreign server, where you cannot verify the backup and protection? I also find the people paranoid how think that Google is the evil company who stores everyone's data and does bad things with it. But I would be more careful with company data.

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          Trust! Given the backup options between what a company of limited size can do on its own and what Google does in its data centers. I will pick Google. As far as protection is concerned, it depends on the sensitivity of the data.

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            I cannot unterstand how a company can rely on Google Docs? Cloud computing is a great idea, but storing company data on a foreign server, where you cannot verify the backup and protection? I also find the people paranoid how think that Google is the evil company who stores everyone's data and does bad things with it. But I would be more careful with company data.

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            elektrowolf wrote:

            I cannot unterstand how a company can rely on Google Docs?

            Well, there are quite a few businesses out there who are using it, e.g., newspapers such as Telegraph and Guardian in the UK. Don't know whether they're "relying" on it.

            elektrowolf wrote:

            Cloud computing is a great idea, but storing company data on a foreign server, where you cannot verify the backup and protection?

            Not sure about Google but MS is supposedly allowing businesses to use their own servers. I think Azure will be along these lines too, if not immediately.

            elektrowolf wrote:

            I also find the people paranoid how think that Google is the evil company who stores everyone's data and does bad things with it. But I would be more careful with company data.

            As a consumer my policy is that I don't store anything in Google's "cloud" that would be a disaster if it were compromised.

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              Kevin McFarlane wrote:

              It will be interesting to see how Office 2010 Cloud stacks up next year. Apparently the cloud will not be restricted to MS data centers, businesses can use their own.

              AFAIK it's tied into SharedPointOfFailure, so the only good I see coming out of it is that SPOF will hopefully suck less in browsers that are not IE.

              The latest nation. Procrastination.

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              Presumably though businesses are in control of their own data. That's the point. Anyway, there must be a demand for this stuff, otherwise Google and Microsoft wouldn't be doing it. The question is how much of a demand is there? My guess is that MS will be very very hard to dislodge from the enterprise whether on the desktop or MS's cloud. Google may score longer term with consumers though and maybe some smaller businesses like the one I contracted with recently.

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                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

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                I've just jumped into the the arms of OpenOffice, driven by a lack of MS Office coupled with the sadness of Google docs.

                I have been trying for weeks to get this little site indexed. If you wonder what it is, or would like some informal accommodation for the 2010 World Cup, please click on this link for Rhino Cottages.

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                Brady Kelly wrote:

                I've just jumped into the the arms of OpenOffice

                The company where I contracted recently were in fact using MS Office, Google Docs and OpenOffice with a longer term aim of dumping the former. I use Google Docs mostly for ad hoc notes and collaboration. For "serious" stuff I use MS Office.

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                • M mincefish

                  Have you guys tried Evernote? That can be accessed online, from a desktop app, and from a phone app (I use the iPhone one, but I'm sure there's an Android and Win Mobile client too). And as long as you sync your phone\desktop, you can use it offline too.

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                  I have Evernote but don't use it right now. I often install apps. and beyond initial curiosity don't touch them for ages. Then some task comes along where I have a need for them.

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                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                    Presumably though businesses are in control of their own data. That's the point. Anyway, there must be a demand for this stuff, otherwise Google and Microsoft wouldn't be doing it. The question is how much of a demand is there? My guess is that MS will be very very hard to dislodge from the enterprise whether on the desktop or MS's cloud. Google may score longer term with consumers though and maybe some smaller businesses like the one I contracted with recently.

                    Kevin

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                    Maybe. I suspect any major marketshare they gain will initially be fed by startups that grow into majors. IMO google spreadsheet's not ready for primetime yet. A few weeks ago I wanted to markup a convention schedule hosted as a googledoc. I was 0 for 3 (4????) in exporting it into excel to edit offline without breakage. CSV is (by design) totally unformatted; Open Office Format was badly mangled (this could've been MS's fault though), excel 2003 format had floating point numbers in the time row and about 1/3rd of the rows were too short and truncated text somewhere. The sheets formatting only consisted of color coding the header row/columns, and variable row/column sizes to fit the text, no formulas, no graphs, no images. It was not a particularly complex spreadsheet to export.

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                      Maybe. I suspect any major marketshare they gain will initially be fed by startups that grow into majors. IMO google spreadsheet's not ready for primetime yet. A few weeks ago I wanted to markup a convention schedule hosted as a googledoc. I was 0 for 3 (4????) in exporting it into excel to edit offline without breakage. CSV is (by design) totally unformatted; Open Office Format was badly mangled (this could've been MS's fault though), excel 2003 format had floating point numbers in the time row and about 1/3rd of the rows were too short and truncated text somewhere. The sheets formatting only consisted of color coding the header row/columns, and variable row/column sizes to fit the text, no formulas, no graphs, no images. It was not a particularly complex spreadsheet to export.

                      The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                      Dan Neely wrote:

                      IMO google spreadsheet's not ready for primetime yet

                      I only use the word processor. Company I worked at seemed to use mainly mail, word processor and Google Talk. Historically, Excel is one of MS's best apps. Not surprising that Google Spreadsheet struggles. How does OpenOffice Calc stack up?

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                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                        Dan Neely wrote:

                        IMO google spreadsheet's not ready for primetime yet

                        I only use the word processor. Company I worked at seemed to use mainly mail, word processor and Google Talk. Historically, Excel is one of MS's best apps. Not surprising that Google Spreadsheet struggles. How does OpenOffice Calc stack up?

                        Kevin

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                        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                        How does OpenOffice Calc stack up?

                        Dunno. Even if it gets ribbonized it's cost a lot more than $70 (cost of office home/student) of my time for me to learn it as well as I know excel.

                        The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          elektrowolf wrote:

                          I cannot unterstand how a company can rely on Google Docs?

                          Well, there are quite a few businesses out there who are using it, e.g., newspapers such as Telegraph and Guardian in the UK. Don't know whether they're "relying" on it.

                          elektrowolf wrote:

                          Cloud computing is a great idea, but storing company data on a foreign server, where you cannot verify the backup and protection?

                          Not sure about Google but MS is supposedly allowing businesses to use their own servers. I think Azure will be along these lines too, if not immediately.

                          elektrowolf wrote:

                          I also find the people paranoid how think that Google is the evil company who stores everyone's data and does bad things with it. But I would be more careful with company data.

                          As a consumer my policy is that I don't store anything in Google's "cloud" that would be a disaster if it were compromised.

                          Kevin

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                          Not sure about Google but MS is supposedly allowing businesses to use their own servers. I think Azure will be along these lines too, if not immediately.

                          Then the situation is different, of course. But is there such a complex technology behind Google Docs? I mean storing documents on a server is not such a difficult task, or is it? The important thing is more like the idea.

                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                          As a consumer my policy is that I don't store anything in Google's "cloud" that would be a disaster if it were compromised.

                          Full ack!

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                          • E elektrowolf

                            Not sure about Google but MS is supposedly allowing businesses to use their own servers. I think Azure will be along these lines too, if not immediately.

                            Then the situation is different, of course. But is there such a complex technology behind Google Docs? I mean storing documents on a server is not such a difficult task, or is it? The important thing is more like the idea.

                            Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                            As a consumer my policy is that I don't store anything in Google's "cloud" that would be a disaster if it were compromised.

                            Full ack!

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                            I'd assume it would be part of the same package Google sells to provide search capability to your intranet.

                            The latest nation. Procrastination.

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