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    Douglas Troy
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    Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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      Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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      What amazes me about those deep space pics of galaxies (thanks for posting those links, BTW) is that the background is all hundreds and hundreds of galaxies! Gads. It just boggles the imagination. Marc

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        What amazes me about those deep space pics of galaxies (thanks for posting those links, BTW) is that the background is all hundreds and hundreds of galaxies! Gads. It just boggles the imagination. Marc

        Will work for food. Interacx

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        Douglas Troy
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        the background is all hundreds and hundreds of galaxies! Gads. It just boggles the imagination.

        Yes, and to consider that each galaxy is comprised of 100's of millions of stars, and in those clusters, planets, etc...etc...etc... As human beings, I wish we could put our petty differences aside and focus on getting off this rock, because there so many amazing things to learn, see and do out there ...


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          What amazes me about those deep space pics of galaxies (thanks for posting those links, BTW) is that the background is all hundreds and hundreds of galaxies! Gads. It just boggles the imagination. Marc

          Will work for food. Interacx

          I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          There must be other life forms. Its a statistical certainty. We just haven't found them or been found by them yet. Every time I see something like this, a little part of me regrets not going into Mechanical/Aeronautical/Aerospace Engineering. I so want to get off this rock.

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            Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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            It moves me seeing something like this!

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              Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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              Superb rendering - just makes you want to get closer.

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                Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                That's some bad astronomy. :)

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                  There must be other life forms. Its a statistical certainty. We just haven't found them or been found by them yet. Every time I see something like this, a little part of me regrets not going into Mechanical/Aeronautical/Aerospace Engineering. I so want to get off this rock.

                  If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  Its a statistical certainty

                  I have to disagree. We know that amino acids are widespread and easy to build, but we just don't know the likelihood of them self-assembling into self-replicating structures, so we don't know how likely life is. It could be so vanishingly improbable that we are the only planet where it happened, or it could be widespread. We simply don't know.

                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  We just haven't found them or been found by them yet.

                  Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta, and as this takes time to accumulate enough to form planets like Earth, we must be one of the first advanced(-ish) civilisations to arise *anywhere*. Interstellar travel without breaking the lightspeed barrier is infeasible due to the timescales involved, and why would they come here anyway? The Solar System is totally unremarkable, there are far more interesting places to visit - globular clusters, the Orion Nebula etc. Our radio transmissions are going to fade to below background noise long before reaching any other star systems so they will have no idea that we have even that level of technology, even after the thousands or millions of years it will take for the signals to reach them, and the same is true for their transmissions heading our way. We will never pick up their stray transmissions. I would love for intelligent aliens to turn up on Earth, or at least evidence for them, but I just don't believe it will happen in the forseeable future.

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    Its a statistical certainty

                    I have to disagree. We know that amino acids are widespread and easy to build, but we just don't know the likelihood of them self-assembling into self-replicating structures, so we don't know how likely life is. It could be so vanishingly improbable that we are the only planet where it happened, or it could be widespread. We simply don't know.

                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    We just haven't found them or been found by them yet.

                    Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta, and as this takes time to accumulate enough to form planets like Earth, we must be one of the first advanced(-ish) civilisations to arise *anywhere*. Interstellar travel without breaking the lightspeed barrier is infeasible due to the timescales involved, and why would they come here anyway? The Solar System is totally unremarkable, there are far more interesting places to visit - globular clusters, the Orion Nebula etc. Our radio transmissions are going to fade to below background noise long before reaching any other star systems so they will have no idea that we have even that level of technology, even after the thousands or millions of years it will take for the signals to reach them, and the same is true for their transmissions heading our way. We will never pick up their stray transmissions. I would love for intelligent aliens to turn up on Earth, or at least evidence for them, but I just don't believe it will happen in the forseeable future.

                    I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                    Steve_Harris wrote:

                    Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta

                    Nit: heavier than Helium.

                    Steve_Harris wrote:

                    why would they come here anyway?

                    Counterarguments: 1) Von Neumann (self replicating) probes are the only practical way to survey a large fraction of a galaxy. There's no reason not to keep a few of them in each surveyed system to continually update the creators data. 2) Even at .01c (this is a very low value for a laser sail ship) it would take an expanding lifeform only a few million years to spread across every habitable planet of the galaxy. This is a very small amount of time vs the amount of time life has existed on the Earth. Ego if they existed they should be here already.

                    The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      Its a statistical certainty

                      I have to disagree. We know that amino acids are widespread and easy to build, but we just don't know the likelihood of them self-assembling into self-replicating structures, so we don't know how likely life is. It could be so vanishingly improbable that we are the only planet where it happened, or it could be widespread. We simply don't know.

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      We just haven't found them or been found by them yet.

                      Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta, and as this takes time to accumulate enough to form planets like Earth, we must be one of the first advanced(-ish) civilisations to arise *anywhere*. Interstellar travel without breaking the lightspeed barrier is infeasible due to the timescales involved, and why would they come here anyway? The Solar System is totally unremarkable, there are far more interesting places to visit - globular clusters, the Orion Nebula etc. Our radio transmissions are going to fade to below background noise long before reaching any other star systems so they will have no idea that we have even that level of technology, even after the thousands or millions of years it will take for the signals to reach them, and the same is true for their transmissions heading our way. We will never pick up their stray transmissions. I would love for intelligent aliens to turn up on Earth, or at least evidence for them, but I just don't believe it will happen in the forseeable future.

                      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                      Steve_Harris wrote:

                      I have to disagree. We know that amino acids are widespread and easy to build, but we just don't know the likelihood of them self-assembling into self-replicating structures, so we don't know how likely life is. It could be so vanishingly improbable that we are the only planet where it happened, or it could be widespread. We simply don't know.

                      Knowing the likelihood is irrelevant, if the universe is infinitely huge then no matter how small the probability, it will have happened. The difficulty lies with us finding it.

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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        the background is all hundreds and hundreds of galaxies! Gads. It just boggles the imagination.

                        Yes, and to consider that each galaxy is comprised of 100's of millions of stars, and in those clusters, planets, etc...etc...etc... As human beings, I wish we could put our petty differences aside and focus on getting off this rock, because there so many amazing things to learn, see and do out there ...


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                        Mladen Jankovic
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                        Douglas Troy wrote:

                        I wish we could put our petty differences aside and focus on getting off this rock

                        Wait, if I recall correctly our 'petty' differences were the major (if not the sole) reason that made us to get off this rock...

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                          Steve_Harris wrote:

                          Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta

                          Nit: heavier than Helium.

                          Steve_Harris wrote:

                          why would they come here anyway?

                          Counterarguments: 1) Von Neumann (self replicating) probes are the only practical way to survey a large fraction of a galaxy. There's no reason not to keep a few of them in each surveyed system to continually update the creators data. 2) Even at .01c (this is a very low value for a laser sail ship) it would take an expanding lifeform only a few million years to spread across every habitable planet of the galaxy. This is a very small amount of time vs the amount of time life has existed on the Earth. Ego if they existed they should be here already.

                          The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                          Mladen Jankovic
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                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          This is a very small vast amount of time vs the amount of time intelligent life has existed on the Earth.

                          FTFY.

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                            Steve_Harris wrote:

                            Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta

                            Nit: heavier than Helium.

                            Steve_Harris wrote:

                            why would they come here anyway?

                            Counterarguments: 1) Von Neumann (self replicating) probes are the only practical way to survey a large fraction of a galaxy. There's no reason not to keep a few of them in each surveyed system to continually update the creators data. 2) Even at .01c (this is a very low value for a laser sail ship) it would take an expanding lifeform only a few million years to spread across every habitable planet of the galaxy. This is a very small amount of time vs the amount of time life has existed on the Earth. Ego if they existed they should be here already.

                            The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                            Perhaps we are the results of the dumping of the contents of a port-a-potty by a scientific expedition during the early development of the planet. Or maybe they seeded the planet with the building blocks of life It's my understanding that the Sol system is a relatively young system compared to the age of the universe.

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                              Dan Neely wrote:

                              This is a very small vast amount of time vs the amount of time intelligent life has existed on the Earth.

                              FTFY.

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                              Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                              intelligent life has existed on the Earth

                              too bad we missed it. :)

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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                Its a statistical certainty

                                I have to disagree. We know that amino acids are widespread and easy to build, but we just don't know the likelihood of them self-assembling into self-replicating structures, so we don't know how likely life is. It could be so vanishingly improbable that we are the only planet where it happened, or it could be widespread. We simply don't know.

                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                We just haven't found them or been found by them yet.

                                Our elements heavier than hydrogen are supernova ejecta, and as this takes time to accumulate enough to form planets like Earth, we must be one of the first advanced(-ish) civilisations to arise *anywhere*. Interstellar travel without breaking the lightspeed barrier is infeasible due to the timescales involved, and why would they come here anyway? The Solar System is totally unremarkable, there are far more interesting places to visit - globular clusters, the Orion Nebula etc. Our radio transmissions are going to fade to below background noise long before reaching any other star systems so they will have no idea that we have even that level of technology, even after the thousands or millions of years it will take for the signals to reach them, and the same is true for their transmissions heading our way. We will never pick up their stray transmissions. I would love for intelligent aliens to turn up on Earth, or at least evidence for them, but I just don't believe it will happen in the forseeable future.

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                                Steve_Harris wrote:

                                I would love for intelligent aliens to turn up on Earth

                                I have this hideous image of them wandering around wearing "I :love: NY" t shirts :doh:

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                                  That's some bad astronomy. :)

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                                  That's some bad-ass astronomy. FTFY.

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                                    That's some bad-ass astronomy. FTFY.

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    I know. I was also trying to refer to “Bad Astronomy[^]” the blog where Douglas Troy got the information.

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                                      Just wanted to make certain that the space enthusiasts here, saw the latest jaw dropping Hubble images: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911c.html[^] http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0911b.html[^] Just incredible stuff. (make certain you click on the images to enlarge them)


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                                      Truly impressive. Thanks for sharing, Mike

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                                        Douglas Troy wrote:

                                        I wish we could put our petty differences aside and focus on getting off this rock

                                        Wait, if I recall correctly our 'petty' differences were the major (if not the sole) reason that made us to get off this rock...

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                                        I do not totally disagree with your statement, but to discuss this further will result in my having to turn this into a political conversation, which I'd rather not turn this into, however, there is no doubt that politics were a major, driving force behind our going to the moon; and "yes", our differences with Russia played a key role in the decisions made back then. But 'petty differences' are also what keeps us from achieving even greater things, and I firmly believe that those challenges must be met by everyone on this planet, and not just one nation, and until we can put these child like differences aside and work together, we'll never truly accomplish what we could. ... and I seriously hope, for the continued survival of our species, that one day, our children are able to look past all that, and reach out to the stars, before this planet's time is up, because regardless of what you believe, think, say or do ... Earth will eventually die, and all life on it will die with her, and we cannot stop it.


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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          I know. I was also trying to refer to “Bad Astronomy[^]” the blog where Douglas Troy got the information.

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                                          The irony is I bombard BA with tons of astronomy stuff I dig up on-line. He used to respond to me from time-to-time to say "thanks", now he probably thinks I'm some kind of Space News Spam bot. Emmmm, wonder if I can get that on a T-Shirt ... :-\


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