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  • T Tom Deketelaere

    Rob Philpott wrote:

    'd like a NAS drive thing, but they're costly

    That depends on what you want. I have a simple 500gig NAS system at home (well not exactly industry grade NAS but hell enough for the important stuff) that basicly is 2 hard drives that copy each other, k still a chance of everything going wrong but having 2 hard drives fail at the same moment would be a clear indication that the universe is against me and that I should stop fighting it ;P

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    Dave Parker
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    I've never seen any attractively priced NAS devices that are decent (support standard windows file shares, more than 1 HDD etc), they always seem to be more expensive than a full computer system. I bought a cheap one a few years ago for about £20 into which I can put a single IDE HDD and has an ethernet and USB connector. When saving files to it over the network though it just seems to corrupt nearly every file that's placed on it.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Oh yes. About two years ago, my wifes HDD failed out-of-the-blue. Replaced. Then about a month later mine went. Same make, same model. It happens, HDD failure is probably the most common hardware fault in a PC other than "I poured juice in my keyboard". Probably because they have mechanical systems as well as electronic. Back up. Do it now! Well backed up computers rarely fail!

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      Brady Kelly
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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      "I poured juice in my keyboard".

      Sniff. I still have one dead laptop caused by 'juice' (Smirnoff Storm) on the keyboard, and the HDD, and the mobo, and the battery, and the DVD. It's amazing how far 330ml can spread. All four walls of my bedroom even still have small splash-marks.

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

        their failure rate is 1 in every 17

        Fight Club narrator said:

        On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

        Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        True, I guess Google isn't keeping theirs long enough.

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        • R Rob Philpott

          Been thinking again this morning about a back up strategy in case of a hard disk crash. I've got three hard discs in my computer and just copy anything important onto a different disc now and again. I'd like a NAS drive thing, but they're costly. But I haven't had a disk crash for about 15 years either at work or home. It doesn't seem to happen anymore. Has anyone else?

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          ednrg
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          The fact that your backup drives are in your computer is a little troubling. One nice spike from your power supply, and goodbye data. I have a few USB cases and I backup my data to these drives. When the backup is completed, I unplug and disconnect the drives and place them in the desk.

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          • R Rob Philpott

            Interesting - second person who said their drives were taken out by a PSU. I've never heard of that before.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            peterchen
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            Modern PSU's don't apply a transformer but voltage regulators (better price, weight, efficiency).If these fail the output voltage goes UP AND UP AND OOOOOHHHHH POOOF!

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              Modern PSU's don't apply a transformer but voltage regulators (better price, weight, efficiency).If these fail the output voltage goes UP AND UP AND OOOOOHHHHH POOOF!

              Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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              Dan Neely
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              You'll need multiple failures on a better PSU which will monitor the regulation and pull the plug if it goes haywire.

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Been thinking again this morning about a back up strategy in case of a hard disk crash. I've got three hard discs in my computer and just copy anything important onto a different disc now and again. I'd like a NAS drive thing, but they're costly. But I haven't had a disk crash for about 15 years either at work or home. It doesn't seem to happen anymore. Has anyone else?

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                snowman53
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                I've had five or six HD failures over the last year. Most were of the data recoverable type, but one was a true unrecoverable crash that took down my web server.

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                • R Rob Philpott

                  Been thinking again this morning about a back up strategy in case of a hard disk crash. I've got three hard discs in my computer and just copy anything important onto a different disc now and again. I'd like a NAS drive thing, but they're costly. But I haven't had a disk crash for about 15 years either at work or home. It doesn't seem to happen anymore. Has anyone else?

                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  Yeah mine did a while back. Took me 6 days to get back out of recovery mode.

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                  • R Rob Philpott

                    Been thinking again this morning about a back up strategy in case of a hard disk crash. I've got three hard discs in my computer and just copy anything important onto a different disc now and again. I'd like a NAS drive thing, but they're costly. But I haven't had a disk crash for about 15 years either at work or home. It doesn't seem to happen anymore. Has anyone else?

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    I had one back in 03 or 04. My kid brother's had two, both probably due to being a fumble fingered klutz and repeatedly dropping it...

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      You'll need multiple failures on a better PSU which will monitor the regulation and pull the plug if it goes haywire.

                      The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                      peterchen
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                      That's why I said "by cheap PSU's" in the OR :D

                      Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                      • P peterchen

                        That's why I said "by cheap PSU's" in the OR :D

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                        | FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Dan Neely
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                        Good PSUs can still let the magic smoke out of a system if damaged severely enough even though it's much less common. A close enough lightning strike will send a power spike big enough to blow through any defenses this side of a double conversion UPS(?) before they can self destruct to protect downstream components.

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                        • D Dan Neely

                          Good PSUs can still let the magic smoke out of a system if damaged severely enough even though it's much less common. A close enough lightning strike will send a power spike big enough to blow through any defenses this side of a double conversion UPS(?) before they can self destruct to protect downstream components.

                          The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                          peterchen
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                          How frequent is that for you? It's really rare here unless you have ancient wiring. Thunderstorms are not that frequent (averaged over the year), but I've never seen one take out any equipment - heard of a few, though. The worst thing for dropouts is an overeager protective earth conductor being mishandled.

                          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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