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    Chris Maunder
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    We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      So you are complaining about a free service? Give them $1,500 a month and I bet you get a personal account rep.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        So you are complaining about a free service? Give them $1,500 a month and I bet you get a personal account rep.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        Chris Maunder
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        Speaking as someone who also offers a free service, and who deals with many others who offer free services, I take a little pride in the fact that we look after our members and users. Google makes billions off their "free" service. With great power comes great responsbility.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Speaking as someone who also offers a free service, and who deals with many others who offer free services, I take a little pride in the fact that we look after our members and users. Google makes billions off their "free" service. With great power comes great responsbility.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          There is probably a relationship between the number of individuals served and the level of individual service that can be provided for a given unit cost. I could be wrong, but I bet if all 6 and 1/2 million members were active daily you would not have the time to recognize what I jerk I am personally. I would just get a form letter.

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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          • C Chris Maunder

            We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            What did you expect from these guys?[^]

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            • C Chris Maunder

              We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              dandy72
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              Makes me want to rush to things like Google Docs...

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                There is probably a relationship between the number of individuals served and the level of individual service that can be provided for a given unit cost. I could be wrong, but I bet if all 6 and 1/2 million members were active daily you would not have the time to recognize what I jerk I am personally. I would just get a form letter.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                Dear Mr. Lynch, Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Maunder. As an active member of Code Project, we value your input almost as much as we value the air that we breath. Typically, Chris is to busy building this massive free internet service, feeding, bathing and reading to the hamsters, as well as saving small children around the world to respond. At some point in the near future, rest assured that Chris will see your message, and deal with it in an appropriate manner, but he does not normally reply to lesser beings, such as yourself. Thank you for your time, input and consideration, CP Lounge Monitoring Activities Team


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                • C Chris Maunder

                  We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  My Google account settings offer 3 methods of password recovery: E-mail to a secondary account, SMS to perform a password reset, challenge question. Did they offer any of these options? P.S. I find it humorous that you don't seem to accept any of the blame for not knowing your own password. ;P

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                    Dear Mr. Lynch, Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Maunder. As an active member of Code Project, we value your input almost as much as we value the air that we breath. Typically, Chris is to busy building this massive free internet service, feeding, bathing and reading to the hamsters, as well as saving small children around the world to respond. At some point in the near future, rest assured that Chris will see your message, and deal with it in an appropriate manner, but he does not normally reply to lesser beings, such as yourself. Thank you for your time, input and consideration, CP Lounge Monitoring Activities Team


                    :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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                    Haha now thats funny

                    "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      M dHatter
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                      Just tell them their new ie google frame keeps crashing and its making your life hell. They should get back to you in mins lmao. Or better yet tell them you are switching from google to bing. :laugh:

                      "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Speaking as someone who also offers a free service, and who deals with many others who offer free services, I take a little pride in the fact that we look after our members and users. Google makes billions off their "free" service. With great power comes great responsbility.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        I think every site should have a "i'm somebody link!" where you can get faster replies. :-D ;)

                        "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          So you are complaining about a free service? Give them $1,500 a month and I bet you get a personal account rep.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          Just because it is free doesn't mean we must take all their utter crap.

                          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                            My Google account settings offer 3 methods of password recovery: E-mail to a secondary account, SMS to perform a password reset, challenge question. Did they offer any of these options? P.S. I find it humorous that you don't seem to accept any of the blame for not knowing your own password. ;P

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            I have a memory like a sieve, but I work on the basis that if I get it wrong then I try again. I like to actually try guessing a password instead of immediately asking for a new password because you never know if that will then nuke your old one and you'll have to wait up to 24hrs for a new one, or it may force you to think of a new one but not allow you to use an old one, or it might just auto-generate a 26 character mess that you then have to go in and change.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              I have a memory like a sieve, but I work on the basis that if I get it wrong then I try again. I like to actually try guessing a password instead of immediately asking for a new password because you never know if that will then nuke your old one and you'll have to wait up to 24hrs for a new one, or it may force you to think of a new one but not allow you to use an old one, or it might just auto-generate a 26 character mess that you then have to go in and change.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              you never know if that will then nuke your old one and you'll have to wait up to 24hrs for a new one, or it may force you to think of a new one but not allow you to use an old one, or it might just auto-generate a 26 character mess that you then have to go in and change.

                              All true, but isn't it common practice (as blessed by the security illuminati) to limit failed login attempts? If Google allowed unlimited attempts they run the risk of bots breeching accounts and all hell breaks loose. No? I can see the PC World headlines now - "Google Accounts Hacked! - Cloud Computing is an utter failure!"

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                you never know if that will then nuke your old one and you'll have to wait up to 24hrs for a new one, or it may force you to think of a new one but not allow you to use an old one, or it might just auto-generate a 26 character mess that you then have to go in and change.

                                All true, but isn't it common practice (as blessed by the security illuminati) to limit failed login attempts? If Google allowed unlimited attempts they run the risk of bots breeching accounts and all hell breaks loose. No? I can see the PC World headlines now - "Google Accounts Hacked! - Cloud Computing is an utter failure!"

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Limiting, yes, if you're a bank for instance. Disabling your account and giving you no recourse to recover your account? That's a new level of service to me.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Steve Echols
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                                  I rely heavily on the FireFox Show Passwords button. :)


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                                    Limiting, yes, if you're a bank for instance. Disabling your account and giving you no recourse to recover your account? That's a new level of service to me.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    Disabling your account and giving you no recourse to recover your account?

                                    Agreed, but in your OP you mention both "Disable" and "Terminate" as if they are necessarily the same. In my experience, they are usually quite different when it comes to login accounts. Is it possible that by "resetting" your password, they sent a 26 character abomination of a temporary password to a secondary e-mail account that you have not yet checked (or no longer own)? Just trying to help...

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                                      We had an issue early last year that involved Google indexing and their complete and utter failure to give a damn about websites that rely on them. Here's some icing. Today I tried to log into my Google account, but it being the interwebz I have about a zillion accounts, and not being a regular Google user I normally need to go through half a dozen of my common passwords to work out which one I should be using. Except that after 3 goes my account is disabled. So I click on the 'Can't access your account' link, am presented with another link to reset my password, then refresh it a few times becuse of their horrendous CAPTCHA, then submit, and I get the message "Your account has been disabled". Yes, Google. That's why I'm on this page, Google. You sent me here. And now I'm just that slightly bit more pissed off than I was before. I read their help page which says they reserve the right to terminate an account at any time if the terms of service have been breached. They then give you the option to contact them regarding my disabled, terms-of-use-abusing account - which I do - and after hitting submit I get: Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Google Accounts team. Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Although we don't follow up regarding individual comments, we do review them all and use them to improve Google Accounts And that's it. Game over.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Demand your money back.

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                                        I rely heavily on the FireFox Show Passwords button. :)


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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Did someone wrap an extension API around this[^] snippet of cross browser javascript, or does FF provide an API to do the same.

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                                          Did someone wrap an extension API around this[^] snippet of cross browser javascript, or does FF provide an API to do the same.

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                                          Even easier, Tools->Options->Security->Saved Passwords->Show Passwords. I use this when I get a new computer, or I'm using a different browsers, and can't remember the password. Of course, this is only useful if you've successfully logged into a site, and told FF to remember the password.


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