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The greatest software design blunders of all time

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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Jim Crafton wrote:

    Unix. All of it.

    Including Mac OS X? ;P Seriously, I like Unix. It is a very geek-friendly system. Of course, the GUI part is horrible (except Mac OS X?), but why would you even want to run a GUI desktop system on Unix?

    utf8-cpp

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

    why would you even want to run a GUI desktop system on Unix?

    Or OpenVMS, or DOS...

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    • D Dave Parker

      Also I might be wrong but I'm sure my old Windows 2000 had this on the logon screen as well.

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      Mirko1980
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      Just checked on 7, has a language button on the top-left of the login screen.

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

        I had to debug a fairly large C program (with fairly large number of bugs) on an AIX machine (VI editor. Yes.)

        You debugged a program with vi?

        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

        OK, Nemanja is not going to agree with us, but what the hell.

        Well, I am not going to argue that you never want to go back there :)

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        VI was the "IDE". DBX for debugging. For me, the editor, debugger, the OS, and everything else (including the Unix nerd whom I worked with) all looked the same. Totally blank. :)

        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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        • D dojohansen

          In an effort to make our own mistakes look more reasonable, I invite you to post the big and high-profile blunders others have made. The scope is broad; anything from user interface to file formats goes. To get us started, I'll suggest this: MS-1: No way to switch input locale when logging on to windows. This is just brilliant. If you've defined a password using a different input locale from the system default (perhaps because your keyboard isn't made for the default locale) you'll find yourself in an ackward situation after a reboot. You can't see what you're typing, it isn't what's printed on the keys you press, and you've got maximum 3 attempts to get it right... Of course, the password is sure to contain special characters, making everything harder yet! Any others?

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          NickPace
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          I'd have to say MS Access. It just sucks. I'm currently working on a project to convert several Access97 databases and programs into C# and SQL Server. Been going on two years now. Just when I think I'm done, I'm not. It just won't die. X|

          -NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user.

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          • D dojohansen

            In an effort to make our own mistakes look more reasonable, I invite you to post the big and high-profile blunders others have made. The scope is broad; anything from user interface to file formats goes. To get us started, I'll suggest this: MS-1: No way to switch input locale when logging on to windows. This is just brilliant. If you've defined a password using a different input locale from the system default (perhaps because your keyboard isn't made for the default locale) you'll find yourself in an ackward situation after a reboot. You can't see what you're typing, it isn't what's printed on the keys you press, and you've got maximum 3 attempts to get it right... Of course, the password is sure to contain special characters, making everything harder yet! Any others?

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            Miszou
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            Keyboard Error - Press F1 to resume

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            • M Mladen Jankovic

              dojohansen wrote:

              I am saying it's stupid not to let the user who's attempting to log on to choose the locale he or she wishes to use for the login attempt

              And all I'm saying is that it's stupid to have all locales installed on all PC all over the world just in case somebody didn't configure his PC to support his password preferences.

              dojohansen wrote:

              I suppose it's too much to ask for Americans to understand the first thing about locale-related problems

              Yeah, blame Americans, seems reasonable :) But this should go in Soap Box/Back Room.

              dojohansen wrote:

              If you would be kind enough to explain to me why choosing ANY locale that the machine is ABLE to support just for login would be a "blunder" I am all ears.

              I specifically referred to installing locales using log-in screen, but hey why should you bother to understand what people are saying when can rant.

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              dojohansen
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              Mladen Jankovic wrote:

              I specifically referred to installing locales using log-in screen

              Yes, implying I had said so too. I did say "add locales", so perhaps it's understandable that you missed what I meant: to the list shown to the user trying to log on. Your reply was nevertheless very much against the spirit of the thread, which was to make our own mistakes seem more reasonable. I guess you just didn't see the humour in it. As for this specific design, I don't know why my XP doesn't show the "NO" locale (though from what someone else posted it seems there's a login user and the locales associated with this user will be displayed), but I know it's installed.

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              • M Mirko1980

                Just checked on 7, has a language button on the top-left of the login screen.

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                Dan Neely
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                Does it provide access to *ALL* languages by default, or just a few. The OP's complaint was that his standard wasn't available as part of the default, and couldn't be added to the list while not logged in.

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                • N NickPace

                  I'd have to say MS Access. It just sucks. I'm currently working on a project to convert several Access97 databases and programs into C# and SQL Server. Been going on two years now. Just when I think I'm done, I'm not. It just won't die. X|

                  -NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user.

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                  Steve Echols
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                  I like the reporting in access, but the rest of it can die a horrible death!


                  - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.

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                    I like the reporting in access, but the rest of it can die a horrible death!


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                    Dan Neely
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                    It's out of the box edit grid does more than the asp.net equivalent in that access's will create a dropdown box for a foreign key lookup table via the gui vs having to manually muck around and edit the aspx itself. Discovering that blew my the time estimate for my first asp.net app out of the water; since I had assumed it would be least as capable as a 10yo POS application. :doh:

                    The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      It's out of the box edit grid does more than the asp.net equivalent in that access's will create a dropdown box for a foreign key lookup table via the gui vs having to manually muck around and edit the aspx itself. Discovering that blew my the time estimate for my first asp.net app out of the water; since I had assumed it would be least as capable as a 10yo POS application. :doh:

                      The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                      Steve Echols
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                      Not sure if you can really compare Access vs. ASP.NET, but yeah, Access does a lot of the nitty gritty stuff for you, allowing a bubble gum chewing secretary to look like a computer genius to the boss! :-D


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