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  • H Henry Minute

    Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

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    I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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      I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:

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      I don't know anyone besides me who says SQL, everyone else I know says sequel lol

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        I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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        Henry Minute
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        5, for the effort, if nothing else. Lose the last "i", indeed! Bah! Humbug!

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          I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".

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          Ian Shlasko
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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".

          The way I always understood it was as two different meanings that often got mixed up... The route/rout was the bus/train designation, and the route/root was the path it would take. So basically "rout" 45 (The #45 bus) would go up "root" 87 (Highway #87)... (Ok, actually the 45 bus takes the Lincoln Tunnel to the Garden State and cruises up Rt. 45, hence the designation, but I'm just using the Thruway as an example... And anyone who actually knows what I'm talking about, greetings fellow New Yorker)

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          • R ragnaroknrol

            I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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            ragnaroknrol wrote:

            Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is.

            Well put! That deserves a 5.

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              Knee-sahn? They are descended from The Samurai Who Say "Ni".

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              Excellent! :laugh: :laugh: I was thinking of putting the Knights in the OP.

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                It depends on whether I'm speaking Dutch or English

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                Henry Minute
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                You cunning linguists have the best of both worlds!

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                  I don't know anyone besides me who says SQL, everyone else I know says sequel lol

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  Dave Parker wrote:

                  , everyone else I know says sequel lol

                  "Sequel lol" is even more arrogant. :)

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                    I don't know anyone besides me who says SQL, everyone else I know says sequel lol

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                    I say S-Q-L, others say Squirrel or Sequel. Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.

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                      I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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                      Jag-yoo-arrrrrr, Niss-ann (Nee-sahn??????:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:) always. And aluminium. Do you prefer Potassum, Sodum, Iridum, Calcum, Radum, Samarum and Magnesum too?

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                        I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                        and Americans make it silent because

                        they are too lazy to pronounce it. ;)

                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                        only hicks and idiots use sheeps

                        I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ;P ).

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                          I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school.

                          As both an American and a native Chicagoan, I can't tell you how much better it is having a President who can pronounce nuclear correctly.

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                            ragnaroknrol wrote:

                            and Americans make it silent because

                            they are too lazy to pronounce it. ;)

                            ragnaroknrol wrote:

                            only hicks and idiots use sheeps

                            I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ;P ).

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                            Steve_Harris wrote:

                            I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                            Nah, it's the fact that "h" seems to think it is special. It messes with "c" all the time, changing it to something entirely different than it is used to. Poor "s" goes from being a nice plural sort of fellow to making people shush up. If that wasn't bad enough it makes "t" have a lisp. I mean, come on, no letter should be this important that whenever it follows another letter the other letters have to suddenly drop what they are doing and change states. Face it, "h" is an uppity jerk.

                            Steve_Harris wrote:

                            I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                            You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment. Idiots and hicks use "sheeps." ;)

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                              I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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                              Ian Shlasko wrote:

                              Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way.

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                                I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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                                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain.

                                Well if you are capable of understanding those funny hieroglyphics they use, you can make Sheeps Music. Clickety[^]. While you search for them.

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                                  I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.

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                                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                  * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new.

                                  Perhaps the reason you can't afford one is becasue you cannot pronounce it?

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                                  • H Henry Minute

                                    Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

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                                    I've been Americanized (I say "toe-may-toe", rather than "toe-mah-toe") but back in Blighty, I figured the "day-ta" / "dah-ta" pronunciation was regional, like "ant" / "aren't" for your Uncle's wife, or "she has fer her"

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                                      I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".

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                                      Irregardless used to bug me too until I learned it is actually a real word. Check it out.

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                                        Steve_Harris wrote:

                                        I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                                        Nah, it's the fact that "h" seems to think it is special. It messes with "c" all the time, changing it to something entirely different than it is used to. Poor "s" goes from being a nice plural sort of fellow to making people shush up. If that wasn't bad enough it makes "t" have a lisp. I mean, come on, no letter should be this important that whenever it follows another letter the other letters have to suddenly drop what they are doing and change states. Face it, "h" is an uppity jerk.

                                        Steve_Harris wrote:

                                        I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ).

                                        You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment. Idiots and hicks use "sheeps." ;)

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                                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                        Steve_Harris wrote: I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ). You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment.

                                        If it helps; this is also relevant in travel guides to New Zealand, Scotland, and Montana.

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                                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                          Steve_Harris wrote: I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ). You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment.

                                          If it helps; this is also relevant in travel guides to New Zealand, Scotland, and Montana.

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                                          gotcha, my sleep deprived brain got it now. I thought it was a guide for when to use velcro gloves in those places, not a travel guide...

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