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    Cristian Adam
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    Windows Embedded CE has a native C++[^] Silverlight implementation. This is good news for native developers for a change. I would love to use it instead of / with MFC for developing Desktop applications. Sign this petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/SWE4DKTP/petition.html) if you would like to have the native C++ Silverlight not only on Microsoft Windows Embedded CE operating system but also on Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, and 7 operating systems. I am aware that this might not change anything (or rather will not), but we (native developers) should show Microsoft that we want native declarative UI framework.

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      Windows Embedded CE has a native C++[^] Silverlight implementation. This is good news for native developers for a change. I would love to use it instead of / with MFC for developing Desktop applications. Sign this petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/SWE4DKTP/petition.html) if you would like to have the native C++ Silverlight not only on Microsoft Windows Embedded CE operating system but also on Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, and 7 operating systems. I am aware that this might not change anything (or rather will not), but we (native developers) should show Microsoft that we want native declarative UI framework.

      modified on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:16 AM

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      Simon P Stevens
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      What the frick. "Silverlight for Windows Embedded is used to develop user interfaces (UI) for shells and applications running on a Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 device, whereas Silverlight is used to develop interactive applications for the web running in a web browser." "Silverlight for Windows Embedded supports native C++ only, while Silverlight is based on the .NET Framework and uses managed code" "Silverlight for Windows Embedded API set is a completely new API set, separate from the Silverlight APIs" I'm sorry, but it's not Silverlight. It's a API for designing user interfaces with native c++. Silverlight is a API for building web applications in managed code. The two are completely different. Someone at MS please sort your marketing department out and rename this to something else.

      Simon

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        Windows Embedded CE has a native C++[^] Silverlight implementation. This is good news for native developers for a change. I would love to use it instead of / with MFC for developing Desktop applications. Sign this petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/SWE4DKTP/petition.html) if you would like to have the native C++ Silverlight not only on Microsoft Windows Embedded CE operating system but also on Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, and 7 operating systems. I am aware that this might not change anything (or rather will not), but we (native developers) should show Microsoft that we want native declarative UI framework.

        modified on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:16 AM

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        Jim Crafton
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        Cristian Adam wrote:

        want native declarative UI framework.

        If you want something like this for C++, then you might consider looking at the VCF - it has a resource loader that lets you fully specify the UI in a file which is parsed and then the UI is built on the fly, including hooking up event handlers, if specified.

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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          Cristian Adam wrote:

          want native declarative UI framework.

          If you want something like this for C++, then you might consider looking at the VCF - it has a resource loader that lets you fully specify the UI in a file which is parsed and then the UI is built on the fly, including hooking up event handlers, if specified.

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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          Cristian Adam
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          Well I want something coming from Microsoft, which comes with Visual Studio, which works with the designer tools, in other words supported by Microsoft. This Silverlight for Windows Embedded sounds like the thing. If I would use a 3rd party library, I would use Qt from Nokia with the upcoming Declarative UI/[^]

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            Well I want something coming from Microsoft, which comes with Visual Studio, which works with the designer tools, in other words supported by Microsoft. This Silverlight for Windows Embedded sounds like the thing. If I would use a 3rd party library, I would use Qt from Nokia with the upcoming Declarative UI/[^]

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            Well not to beat a dead horse, but just so you're aware, Qt is listed as "upcoming", and who knows whether or not Microsoft will maintain any interest in their new toy of the week. What I'm suggesting has been around for a while now, and works right now, as opposed to some point in the future. Best of luck though.

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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              Well I want something coming from Microsoft, which comes with Visual Studio, which works with the designer tools, in other words supported by Microsoft. This Silverlight for Windows Embedded sounds like the thing. If I would use a 3rd party library, I would use Qt from Nokia with the upcoming Declarative UI/[^]

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              Yes, but Cristian, you're over looking some of the finer points here: Jim developed the VCF, and is a regular here on CP, so you have direct access to him. Jim deeply cares about the people that use the VCF, so much so, that if you have a problem, he'll likely jump on an airplane, fly out to you, and pair program with you until your troubles are resolved Jim creates really cool 3D space ships. That has nothing to do with any of this, just thought I'd mention it. Now, honestly, would you get that kind of service, commitment, hand holding and love from the QT team? No. You'd be lucky if they'd even acknowledge you exist. So, try VCF, save an orange and feel Jim's love ... ok, that doesn't sound right, but just go with it.


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                Yes, but Cristian, you're over looking some of the finer points here: Jim developed the VCF, and is a regular here on CP, so you have direct access to him. Jim deeply cares about the people that use the VCF, so much so, that if you have a problem, he'll likely jump on an airplane, fly out to you, and pair program with you until your troubles are resolved Jim creates really cool 3D space ships. That has nothing to do with any of this, just thought I'd mention it. Now, honestly, would you get that kind of service, commitment, hand holding and love from the QT team? No. You'd be lucky if they'd even acknowledge you exist. So, try VCF, save an orange and feel Jim's love ... ok, that doesn't sound right, but just go with it.


                :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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                Jim Crafton
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                Douglas Troy wrote:

                So, try VCF, save an orange and feel Jim's love ... ok, that doesn't sound right, but just go with it.

                Uh, I'm not quite sure that's the imagery I was going for, PR wise. I'll have to have our PR person, Ms. Jameson (you can call her Jenna) contact you.

                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                  Douglas Troy wrote:

                  So, try VCF, save an orange and feel Jim's love ... ok, that doesn't sound right, but just go with it.

                  Uh, I'm not quite sure that's the imagery I was going for, PR wise. I'll have to have our PR person, Ms. Jameson (you can call her Jenna) contact you.

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                  Douglas Troy
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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  I'll have to have our PR person, Ms. Jameson (you can call her Jenna) contact you.

                  Now there's a framework to interface with ... (har har) :-\


                  :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                  Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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                    Cristian Adam wrote:

                    want native declarative UI framework.

                    If you want something like this for C++, then you might consider looking at the VCF - it has a resource loader that lets you fully specify the UI in a file which is parsed and then the UI is built on the fly, including hooking up event handlers, if specified.

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    you might consider looking at the VCF

                    Out of curiosity - does it work on Windows CE?

                    utf8-cpp

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                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                      you might consider looking at the VCF

                      Out of curiosity - does it work on Windows CE?

                      utf8-cpp

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      Not as far as I know. I started to port it and someone else carried also did some work with it, but I don't know how far along he got, haven't heard back in a while. Theoretically it shouldn't be that big of a deal to get it to work on CE. Plus it's a got a smaller memory footprint that Qt or .Net.

                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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