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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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      I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

      “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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      Wow, you may have just firmed my opinion of what goes in my next build! I've been out of touch with hardware, particularly graphics cards, lately.

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        I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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        Jim Crafton
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        Personally I've had more problems with ATI, to the point where I only use Nvidia at home. At home I just turned Aero off completely and let Vista 64 run in classic mode, and everything seems kosher.

        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

        I work for an animation company

        What do you do there, that sounds pretty interesting!

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          I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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          The newer NV drivers seem to crash a lot more often than old ones IME Almost none of my games are stable anymore - purely from NV-driver crashes

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            Personally I've had more problems with ATI, to the point where I only use Nvidia at home. At home I just turned Aero off completely and let Vista 64 run in classic mode, and everything seems kosher.

            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            I work for an animation company

            What do you do there, that sounds pretty interesting!

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            I agree with Jim. I've had a lot more problems with ATI Graphics card drivers than with NVidia drivers. Tbh its better the devil you know....

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              Wow, you may have just firmed my opinion of what goes in my next build! I've been out of touch with hardware, particularly graphics cards, lately.

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              phannon86 wrote:

              Hijacking hopingToCode's idea!

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                I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                There are people here who have decided in the past not buy any ATI. :)

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                  I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                  “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                  I have all nVidia cards at home (even my laptop), and three of those boxes are running Weven64. (Another is running FreeBSD, and another is running XP32.)

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                    I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                    Hey Rajesh, Was the device driver Microsoft WHQL signed/certified? If so... it passed a multitude of tests provided by Microsoft to ensure stability and compatibility. Since the Windows7 operating system has just been released the tests might not be as robust as they should be. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                      Personally I've had more problems with ATI, to the point where I only use Nvidia at home. At home I just turned Aero off completely and let Vista 64 run in classic mode, and everything seems kosher.

                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                      I work for an animation company

                      What do you do there, that sounds pretty interesting!

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                      I have used ati cards since the mach64. And with the exception of a few driver releases for the rage128 and the original Radeon I have never had a problem. This comment applies to windows, as Linux driver support is pretty terrible.

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                        I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                        And people wonder why I've used nothing but ATI cards since my old 32MB Rage Fury. I mean sure, it crashes all the time in Vista x64, but doesn't everything? 10 days until Vista SP3!

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                          I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                          Luca Leonardo Scorcia
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                          Count me on that. The only stable driver for my laptop (Win7 64bit, 9650M GT, under a year old) is 179.48, released Jan 09. I had to find it by trial and error: every other driver crashes after a few seconds under Aero. I have even posted a message on the nvidia forums, no reply so far; I suppose they will never reply since it's not a retail video card. It's not a defective card - I have bought two identical laptops and the problem happens on both. And WHQL drivers are no better. Next time is going to be an ATI. It won't be substantially better I suppose, but that's all the choice we've got.

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                            Hey Rajesh, Was the device driver Microsoft WHQL signed/certified? If so... it passed a multitude of tests provided by Microsoft to ensure stability and compatibility. Since the Windows7 operating system has just been released the tests might not be as robust as they should be. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                            Randor wrote:

                            Since the Windows7 operating system has just been released the tests might not be as robust as they should be.

                            Whilst that might be true, you would hope that they were more rigorously tested than normal. M$ cannot afford to have Weven fail for lack of stable drivers.

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                              I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                              “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                              Dan Neely
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                              Elsewhere I've seen claims that the bulk of the crashes were from nVidia mobo drivers, not the GPU drivers. AFAIK until getting eaten by AMD ATI mobos had a small marketshare; while nVidia was the defacto standard on AMD 64 systems.

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                              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                                “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                                Rutvik Dave
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                                My Dell laptop also has nVidia, and after I installed updated graphics drivers. I am having lot of trouble. main problem is sluggish Aero performance in vista ultimate (before that it was crashing now and then). This will go away if i open any graphics oriented apps (Games :-D ). looks like the graphics card goes to sleep mode (power saving) for some reason. I have done lots of efforts to make it stay awake, i.e. high performance settings, disable power saving mode etc... but no luck. and even funny is my gaming score is 4.2 and desktop graphics score is 3.4 (AND that makes even scrolling sluggish in web browser) one more thing... I have 'Quadro NVS' which is certified for many windows apps inlcuding 'Visual Studio'. :laugh: , and It is sluggish on all certified apps. I am happy with my ATI in desktop.

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                                  And people wonder why I've used nothing but ATI cards since my old 32MB Rage Fury. I mean sure, it crashes all the time in Vista x64, but doesn't everything? 10 days until Vista SP3!

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                                  Jim Crafton
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                                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                  I mean sure, it crashes all the time in Vista x64, but doesn't everything?

                                  No. I've never had any system crash in Vista 64. However I'm using it for 3D modeling, and I have Aero turned off, so maybe that's not enough of a stress test.

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                                    I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.

                                    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                                    i gave up on them after my dell fried itself and they washed their hands of the matter ... nvidia chipset ... known problem ... they don't care now i use ati and so far i'm happy

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                                      I have used ati cards since the mach64. And with the exception of a few driver releases for the rage128 and the original Radeon I have never had a problem. This comment applies to windows, as Linux driver support is pretty terrible.

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                                      yah their linux support sucks but i only care about 2d stuff in linux really ... for gaming i boot back into windows

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                                        Personally I've had more problems with ATI, to the point where I only use Nvidia at home. At home I just turned Aero off completely and let Vista 64 run in classic mode, and everything seems kosher.

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                                        I work for an animation company

                                        What do you do there, that sounds pretty interesting!

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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        Personally I've had more problems with ATI, to the point where I only use Nvidia at home.

                                        OK, I must admit that I know nothing about ATI or any other GPUs out there. You may be correct that they are worse than Nvidia. However, my experience with Nvidia hasn't been pleasant (on 64 bit operating systems). I must however confess that I've never had a problem while running on 32 bit operating systems. So, I must be bitching and whining about Nvidia, but I'll be using it because it is, at the very least a known devil. Because, All the computers I use are 64 bit (at work and home). Just like John using WPF, or CG using telstra, I'll be using Nvidia. I won't be using it because I'm pleased, but this is the least risky option, and not to mention there's no other way (at work at least). And at least they solve our queries asap because our company is a very important customer to them (thousands of machines that are used by artists, and hundreds of servers, some of which are fastest in our country, all doing rendering job). But I cannot escalate this issue I face at home from the office using my office support subscription because we don't use 7 at office and I cannot reproduce the problem there. :|

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                                        At home I just turned Aero off completely and let Vista 64 run in classic mode, and everything seems kosher.

                                        I agree, but I'll have to turn off Aero because of some bastardly driver, and when I come to think of this, it annoys the hell out of me. How about those losers fixing their crap driver?! :mad:

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                                        What do you do there, that sounds pretty interesting!

                                        The company is #1 animation company in India (in several aspects), known as Paprikaas Interactive[^]. Dreamworks has a strategic partnership (pardon the management buzzword) with us, and EA Sports, Nickelodeon (and a few other reputed companies that I cannot name here) have retained us as their primary services provider. The company does everything in animation and there are roughly 1000 people. We have a research team here, comprising of 10 people (6 are programmers and the rest 3 are Maya experts and 1 is an all rounder, who is probably the best graphics programmer I've met to date

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                                          Hey Rajesh, Was the device driver Microsoft WHQL signed/certified? If so... it passed a multitude of tests provided by Microsoft to ensure stability and compatibility. Since the Windows7 operating system has just been released the tests might not be as robust as they should be. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                          Hi David, To be brutally honest, I have no idea if this was WHQL certified. But I was notified of this update by Windows update itself, so I assumed that it must have been certified by MS. I'll trust this updater utility no more! Thanks and I'll have it checked. Regards, Rajesh.

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