I HATE Nvidia
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Hi Harold, Is that a 32 bit or a 64 bit OS? If the 32 bit OS has less issues, then I'll probably switch to 32 bit OS and convince myself that the world is not yet 64 bit and may be run a 64 bit OS on a VM only to test.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
It varies. My two home systems had ATI graphics and never had a single problems. I upgraded one to an NVidia 9600GT, which is a very nice card, but it blue screens about once a month. It used to blue screen twice a month, so I consider that a leap forward. I replaced one of my home systems with a work surplus system. Every now and then the embedded ATI graphics whigs out. A full shut down solves the problem. Interestingly, my brother has an earlier version of the same computer and tried to put an ATI card in it and it would blue screen every time on shut down, but the low end NVidia card has no problems. I did make the mistake of buying a Neo4 motherboard which has a bug in the DMA/SATA controller software which will corrupt data on certain hard drives (one of which I unfortunately had); I will never again buy a computer with an NVidia chipset.
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Install a program that uses your GPU to crunch data on so that it never goes into idle mode.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
Dan Neely wrote:
Install a program
Oh... I read 'Write a program' :-D There is a options for 'Power Saving' mode. If I uncheck it, then I runs smooooth on battery, but not when plugged in, also my battery only last for 1 hr after that. so looks like it is not applying settings when plugged in. So what I am doing is open apple.com and open one HD trailer, then play it for few sec. and then I can use the laptop, again after a while, if its sluggish. run the trailer again for few sec... besides this is the only down-side, this is what I have to do after buying a $1500.00 Dell Latitude E6500. :thumbsdown:
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phannon86 wrote:
Hijacking hopingToCode's idea!
It wasn't my idea... someone else gave it to me and it's not going to great at the moment. Lots of Jewish festivals and there fore lots of eating and not much time for gym!... oh well all over now and can start again!
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [30/Sep/2009] 103.7kg Target weight : 80kg Only 23.7 to go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
Yea I remember someone else suggesting it to you, but I couldn't remember who, but I recalled you doing it, so thought I'd jump on the (albeit small) bandwagon! :) Good luck to you!
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Hijacking hopingToCode's idea! Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs (just started!)
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I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either. The only problem I have had is that I used to have to restart because of the Wifi refusing to connect but that was probably resolved in a patch a while ago. My suggestion to try linux was just Tongue in cheek (and I thought nVidia was the preferred card for linux) because I have seen a lot of the sample "codez" provided by Microsoft on MSDN that not only aren't complete, but are not even accurate or for obsolete versions. (Common examples, the old Windows GINA C++, Anything DirectX, GPS for C++) And if you can't get a good sample or documentation from the manufacture (MS) than any code you write is going to be arduous. Also, I have to take some pleasure in the unfortunate quality of software these days.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
IIRC nVidia doesn't have GPL drivers for linux. Intel and ATI have been doing them for several years. In Intel's case the only exception has been with the occasional licensed GPU. The GMA500 (Z5xx atoms) being the most recent example. It's a powerVR part and only buggy binary linux drivers are available. With it being the embedded GPU in the forthcoming 32nm atoms things are going to get ugly in penguinland if a better driver isn't made available. In Intel's shoes I'd write a GPL version in house to make sure it was available at release.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
Now you mention it, I'm posting this from an NVidia chipset laptop, and when it had Vista it was almost unusable. My Acer under Vista ran perfectly.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I have all nVidia cards at home (even my laptop), and three of those boxes are running Weven64. (Another is running FreeBSD, and another is running XP32.)
Evertything else is fine, but I'm not sure about the W7 64 bit. That is the only place I have problem. May be you should try to update the driver on it? ;)
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
I'm set for auto updates, and nothing has gone wrong yet.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either. The only problem I have had is that I used to have to restart because of the Wifi refusing to connect but that was probably resolved in a patch a while ago. My suggestion to try linux was just Tongue in cheek (and I thought nVidia was the preferred card for linux) because I have seen a lot of the sample "codez" provided by Microsoft on MSDN that not only aren't complete, but are not even accurate or for obsolete versions. (Common examples, the old Windows GINA C++, Anything DirectX, GPS for C++) And if you can't get a good sample or documentation from the manufacture (MS) than any code you write is going to be arduous. Also, I have to take some pleasure in the unfortunate quality of software these days.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either.
That's a 64 bit OS? I've never had any problem with 32 bit operating systems. It's the 64 bit ones that keep crumbling with Nvidia updates.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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It varies. My two home systems had ATI graphics and never had a single problems. I upgraded one to an NVidia 9600GT, which is a very nice card, but it blue screens about once a month. It used to blue screen twice a month, so I consider that a leap forward. I replaced one of my home systems with a work surplus system. Every now and then the embedded ATI graphics whigs out. A full shut down solves the problem. Interestingly, my brother has an earlier version of the same computer and tried to put an ATI card in it and it would blue screen every time on shut down, but the low end NVidia card has no problems. I did make the mistake of buying a Neo4 motherboard which has a bug in the DMA/SATA controller software which will corrupt data on certain hard drives (one of which I unfortunately had); I will never again buy a computer with an NVidia chipset.
Now, a few other applications have started to crash randomly (Wordweb, for one). I'm going to wipe out all Nvidia stuff and try putting the oldest driver I have. It's surprising to see what sort of poor quality software they can write. With your post, my opinion of not buying another Nvidia has been reinforced.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Yea I remember someone else suggesting it to you, but I couldn't remember who, but I recalled you doing it, so thought I'd jump on the (albeit small) bandwagon! :) Good luck to you!
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Hijacking hopingToCode's idea! Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs (just started!)
I guess I'll have to join your bandwagon, but it would be the other way round. I'll include things like bicep size, chest size, current benchpress record, with target, etc., Want to hit the gym again. It's been a few years. :)
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
