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    Simon P Stevens
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    So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

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      So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

      Simon

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      Keith Barrow
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      I read (but can't remember where) the Americans write it this way as that was the order in which it was spoken when the convention was formalised i.e. October the 10th, rather than 10th of October. Of course the latter is now common. I agree that our way (dd/MM/yyyy) makes more sense however.

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        So today is 20th of October 2009. In UK format that is 20/10/2009. Kinda makes sense right, smallest to biggest. Logical. In US format it's 10/20/2009. Now to me that's totally illogical. Why would you do that. Can any Americans explain to me why this makes sense. (lets try to forget about patriotism). I don't understand why it would ever be useful to break the logical order. It's like writing the time in HH:SS:MM. [As a developer I obviously recognise that the superior format is neither of the above but is in fact YYYY-MM-DD as it maintains correct sort order and digit significance]

        Simon

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        Rage
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        That's sort of asking for a flame war, eh eh. But, well, let's go: Writing MM-DD-YYYY is about as silly as still using inches, feet and whatever clumsy measurement units while everybody else with a bit of common sense in the world use the metric system.

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          That's sort of asking for a flame war, eh eh. But, well, let's go: Writing MM-DD-YYYY is about as silly as still using inches, feet and whatever clumsy measurement units while everybody else with a bit of common sense in the world use the metric system.

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          Dario Solera
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          And pints! What the hell is a pint? :-D

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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            That's sort of asking for a flame war, eh eh. But, well, let's go: Writing MM-DD-YYYY is about as silly as still using inches, feet and whatever clumsy measurement units while everybody else with a bit of common sense in the world use the metric system.

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            Hans Dietrich
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            To say nothing about driving on the wrong side. What's with that? Isn't that a bit extreme, even if you don't want to do what the French do? :)

            Best wishes, Hans


            [Hans Dietrich Software]

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            • R Rage

              That's sort of asking for a flame war, eh eh. But, well, let's go: Writing MM-DD-YYYY is about as silly as still using inches, feet and whatever clumsy measurement units while everybody else with a bit of common sense in the world use the metric system.

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              Simon P Stevens
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              Oh I totally agree. feet/inches/pounds/stone are all stupid. Personally I do everything in metric except driving speed limits. (I have a digital speed display in my car which has the option of displaying in mph or kph, and I've tried but I just can't quite make it work in my head in kph when all the road signs are in mph) What I'm interested in is if there is some sensible historical reason why mm/dd/yyyy is used over there rather than dd/mm/yyyy. (It sounds like keefb has what sounds like a sensible reason)

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                And pints! What the hell is a pint? :-D

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                Dalek Dave
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                An eighth of a gallon.

                ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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                  To say nothing about driving on the wrong side. What's with that? Isn't that a bit extreme, even if you don't want to do what the French do? :)

                  Best wishes, Hans


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                  Simon P Stevens
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                  Hans Dietrich wrote:

                  wrong side

                  The right is left. ;)

                  Simon

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                    And pints! What the hell is a pint? :-D

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    Foamy and delicious. Not like that weak-as-pi*s tasting larger. :laugh:

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                      An eighth of a gallon.

                      ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      Or half a Quart! Or four Gills. Really, people should be intelligent enough to work out unit measurements.

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                        An eighth of a gallon.

                        ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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                        Dario Solera
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                        And what is a gallon?

                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                          And what is a gallon?

                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                          Keith Barrow
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                          160 Fluid Ounces, naturally

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                          • D Dario Solera

                            And what is a gallon?

                            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                            Lost User
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                            A hat size in Texas.

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                            • D Dario Solera

                              And what is a gallon?

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                              phannon86
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                              A UK or US gallon? :)

                              He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs 10/10/2009 Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs

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                                Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                wrong side

                                The right is left. ;)

                                Simon

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                                merridus
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                                Your right! It's always good to keep the commonly stronger right hand on the wheel while changing gear. Assuming you can handle changing gear yourself ;)

                                - Rob

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                                  And what is a gallon?

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                                  hairy_hats
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                                  Eight pints.

                                  I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                                    A UK or US gallon? :)

                                    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs 10/10/2009 Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    1 US Gallon = 0.8327 Imperial Gallons. Now do the maths.

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                                      To say nothing about driving on the wrong side. What's with that? Isn't that a bit extreme, even if you don't want to do what the French do? :)

                                      Best wishes, Hans


                                      [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      Actually it is the safer side. Human brains have a tendency to turn left to avoid a crash, (this is standard in aviation), and in UK this means going up the embankment or hitting a wall. In the US this means crossing into the oncoming traffic, very nasty. And this is not Nationalistic BS...many studies will show this, also there is a five out of six chance you are right handed, and where better to keep you dominant hand than on the wheel. Samoa recently changed from right to left.

                                      ------------------------------------ To eat well in England, you should have a breakfast three times a day. W. Somerset Maugham 1925

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                                        Your right! It's always good to keep the commonly stronger right hand on the wheel while changing gear. Assuming you can handle changing gear yourself ;)

                                        - Rob

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                                        Simon P Stevens
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                                        merridus wrote:

                                        It's always good to keep the commonly stronger right hand on the wheel while changing gear.

                                        Except I'm left handed. :laugh:

                                        Simon

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                                          Your right! It's always good to keep the commonly stronger right hand on the wheel while changing gear. Assuming you can handle changing gear yourself ;)

                                          - Rob

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                                          hairy_hats
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                                          And passing on the left makes it easier to draw your sword and have at the blaggard trying to deprive you of your colonial birthright (or is that birthleft?).

                                          I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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