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    Before I go and reinvent the wheel... We have a number of applications spread accross mutiple domains and a slew of servers. What I need to do is somehow map the dependencies between applications, databases and servers. The need for such an application/environment just rose its ugly head (again) when a database was moved from one server to another, thereby breaking the Intranet because it wanted reference data from the now, offline, database. Can anyone suggest a application that will assist in: a) tracking dependencies and b) report on same Thanks in advance, Tim

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      Before I go and reinvent the wheel... We have a number of applications spread accross mutiple domains and a slew of servers. What I need to do is somehow map the dependencies between applications, databases and servers. The need for such an application/environment just rose its ugly head (again) when a database was moved from one server to another, thereby breaking the Intranet because it wanted reference data from the now, offline, database. Can anyone suggest a application that will assist in: a) tracking dependencies and b) report on same Thanks in advance, Tim

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      Turn off everything one by one and in all combination and then, create a report what all fails on switching off what. ;P

      It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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        Before I go and reinvent the wheel... We have a number of applications spread accross mutiple domains and a slew of servers. What I need to do is somehow map the dependencies between applications, databases and servers. The need for such an application/environment just rose its ugly head (again) when a database was moved from one server to another, thereby breaking the Intranet because it wanted reference data from the now, offline, database. Can anyone suggest a application that will assist in: a) tracking dependencies and b) report on same Thanks in advance, Tim

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        The only thing I can think of is a centralized reporting system that communicates the location of known components. At that point, you'd only have to maintain the reporting application, and have all other apps query it to see where other components are installed. To make it easier, you could have programs notify the reporting tool of their location, but you'd probably have to maintain database locations manually.

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          The only thing I can think of is a centralized reporting system that communicates the location of known components. At that point, you'd only have to maintain the reporting application, and have all other apps query it to see where other components are installed. To make it easier, you could have programs notify the reporting tool of their location, but you'd probably have to maintain database locations manually.

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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          Duncan Edwards Jones
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          Exactly - effectively a twitter of computers. (Much more useful than a twitter of humans)

          '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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            Before I go and reinvent the wheel... We have a number of applications spread accross mutiple domains and a slew of servers. What I need to do is somehow map the dependencies between applications, databases and servers. The need for such an application/environment just rose its ugly head (again) when a database was moved from one server to another, thereby breaking the Intranet because it wanted reference data from the now, offline, database. Can anyone suggest a application that will assist in: a) tracking dependencies and b) report on same Thanks in advance, Tim

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            Need to get your hands on some commercial application mapping software? HP software's Discovery and Dependence mapping solution[^]

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              Exactly - effectively a twitter of computers. (Much more useful than a twitter of humans)

              '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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              Tim Carmichael
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              Yes, effectively a twitter between computers, but, since some of the computers are outside of my realm of influence (I can read data from them, but I may not have permissions to install 'twitter' apps on them), I am still relegated to the ranks of building an app to allow for manual data entry. And, yes, this should have been done many, many years ago, but, it wasn't... Now, I am trying to coordinate moving data sources between legacy (mainframe) applications, services, WinForm and Intranet. Having a dependency base will help me avoid being bitten in the... well, you understand 8) Tim

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                Before I go and reinvent the wheel... We have a number of applications spread accross mutiple domains and a slew of servers. What I need to do is somehow map the dependencies between applications, databases and servers. The need for such an application/environment just rose its ugly head (again) when a database was moved from one server to another, thereby breaking the Intranet because it wanted reference data from the now, offline, database. Can anyone suggest a application that will assist in: a) tracking dependencies and b) report on same Thanks in advance, Tim

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                Reminds me of a time when a company I worked for got split up and sold, no one could work out who owned a particular database on one of the servers. Eventually we simply turned it off. Another company that had been sold off 3 years earlier on another floor suddenly appeared at the front desk demanding their system be turned back on.

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                  Yes, effectively a twitter between computers, but, since some of the computers are outside of my realm of influence (I can read data from them, but I may not have permissions to install 'twitter' apps on them), I am still relegated to the ranks of building an app to allow for manual data entry. And, yes, this should have been done many, many years ago, but, it wasn't... Now, I am trying to coordinate moving data sources between legacy (mainframe) applications, services, WinForm and Intranet. Having a dependency base will help me avoid being bitten in the... well, you understand 8) Tim

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                  Duncan Edwards Jones
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                  WMI has some stuff to query installed apps...but I've never used it myself.

                  '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                    Turn off everything one by one and in all combination and then, create a report what all fails on switching off what. ;P

                    It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    d@nish wrote:

                    Turn off everything one by one and in all combination and then, create a report what all fails on switching off what.

                    Funnily enough, that's almost exactly the prescribed treatment for a broadcast storm.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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