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    N a v a n e e t h
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    Tried VS2010 beta and looks cool as usual. The code-completion is amazing even though it takes some time to parse the include files for large projects. Editor is recognizing C++0X RValue reference declarator and auto keyword. But compared to GCC, VS compiler is still producing poor error messages. It is sad that they haven't done much work to improve the compiler and error messages. I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. :( .

    Best wishes, Navaneeth

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      Tried VS2010 beta and looks cool as usual. The code-completion is amazing even though it takes some time to parse the include files for large projects. Editor is recognizing C++0X RValue reference declarator and auto keyword. But compared to GCC, VS compiler is still producing poor error messages. It is sad that they haven't done much work to improve the compiler and error messages. I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. :( .

      Best wishes, Navaneeth

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      N a v a n e e t h wrote:

      I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported.

      May be they felt that it isn't worth all the efforts they will have to put into it, given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code? ;P

      “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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        N a v a n e e t h wrote:

        I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported.

        May be they felt that it isn't worth all the efforts they will have to put into it, given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code? ;P

        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

        given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code?

        :laugh:

        Best wishes, Navaneeth

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          N a v a n e e t h wrote:

          I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported.

          May be they felt that it isn't worth all the efforts they will have to put into it, given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code? ;P

          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

          there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code?

          How many monkeys have you on that? :-D

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            N a v a n e e t h wrote:

            I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported.

            May be they felt that it isn't worth all the efforts they will have to put into it, given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code? ;P

            “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            there are only totally 8 users

            Did you count Nish 8 times? Nish Nishant Sivakumar Nish Buster voidnish Nishant S Nish [Buster Boy] Nishbot S Nishant They are all same.

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            • N N a v a n e e t h

              Tried VS2010 beta and looks cool as usual. The code-completion is amazing even though it takes some time to parse the include files for large projects. Editor is recognizing C++0X RValue reference declarator and auto keyword. But compared to GCC, VS compiler is still producing poor error messages. It is sad that they haven't done much work to improve the compiler and error messages. I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. :( .

              Best wishes, Navaneeth

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              While they got the text rendering to look good, it still bleeds a lot. I really hope they get that fixed, as that would be a showstopper for me. You can see the bleeding effect in most menu/tab items. Also notably visible on lines with breakpoints.

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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code?

                How many monkeys have you on that? :-D

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                They bluntly refuse to do anything but native code. They've been trained to. They're scared of their master and his chainsaw. :rolleyes:

                “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                • N N a v a n e e t h

                  Tried VS2010 beta and looks cool as usual. The code-completion is amazing even though it takes some time to parse the include files for large projects. Editor is recognizing C++0X RValue reference declarator and auto keyword. But compared to GCC, VS compiler is still producing poor error messages. It is sad that they haven't done much work to improve the compiler and error messages. I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. :( .

                  Best wishes, Navaneeth

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                  N a v a n e e t h wrote: I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. The saga of C++/CLI inellisense is a sorry one, I'm afraid. Basically they bit off more they could chew in replacing it* with the new intellisense engine (an overdue change, it has to be said), and had to own up to the fact that C++/CLI support wouldn't be there in time. It's the same I'm old story I'm afraid (remember the Class Designer in VS2005?) so it's clear (to me at least) that their development processes still aren't as efficient as they could be. * By definiton, had they refactored it instead it would still be working! More info here[^]

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                    They bluntly refuse to do anything but native code. They've been trained to. They're scared of their master and his chainsaw. :rolleyes:

                    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    They're scared of their master and his chainsaw

                    Seen 'Shining', recently (or, maybe, 'Resident Evil' fan?)? :-D

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      N a v a n e e t h wrote:

                      I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported.

                      May be they felt that it isn't worth all the efforts they will have to put into it, given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code? ;P

                      “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                      given the fact that there are only totally 8 users in the world who write C++/CLI code

                      Which is shame, because AFAIK Microsoft has put a lot of efforts in C++\CLI. In fact the C++ team is bigger than C# team because of this. I really wish them to spend all this resources on MFC – the only MC technology which was terribly outdated in the day it was first introduced and it barely changed since then.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        there are only totally 8 users

                        Did you count Nish 8 times? Nish Nishant Sivakumar Nish Buster voidnish Nishant S Nish [Buster Boy] Nishbot S Nishant They are all same.

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                        You mean they're all the same? :omg:

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                          there are only totally 8 users

                          Did you count Nish 8 times? Nish Nishant Sivakumar Nish Buster voidnish Nishant S Nish [Buster Boy] Nishbot S Nishant They are all same.

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                          Nish [Buster Boy]

                          I actually remember some of those posts.

                          Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            Nish [Buster Boy]

                            I actually remember some of those posts.

                            Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                            He used to call himself "Dawn".

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                              He used to call himself "Dawn".

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                              His name *means* Dawn. Different languages and cultures associate words with different genders. Joan is a man's name in parts of Spain. Nikita is a man's name in Russia.

                              Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                                His name *means* Dawn. Different languages and cultures associate words with different genders. Joan is a man's name in parts of Spain. Nikita is a man's name in Russia.

                                Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                                I know - I gave him grief about it when he first joined the board.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                • N N a v a n e e t h

                                  Tried VS2010 beta and looks cool as usual. The code-completion is amazing even though it takes some time to parse the include files for large projects. Editor is recognizing C++0X RValue reference declarator and auto keyword. But compared to GCC, VS compiler is still producing poor error messages. It is sad that they haven't done much work to improve the compiler and error messages. I was expecting C++/CLI intellisense support on beta2, but it is not yet supported. :( .

                                  Best wishes, Navaneeth

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                                  It really is annoying to see the intellisense gone in vs2010 (and i mean GONE). Since they rebuilt the intellisense for native c++ why couldn't they put in the intellisense for c++/cli for native types only etc? It really goes to show they could care less about CLI. But hey we have a new (slow piece of crap WPF) IDE.

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                                    It really is annoying to see the intellisense gone in vs2010 (and i mean GONE). Since they rebuilt the intellisense for native c++ why couldn't they put in the intellisense for c++/cli for native types only etc? It really goes to show they could care less about CLI. But hey we have a new (slow piece of crap WPF) IDE.

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                                    I am a proponent of C++/CLI like you. I asked about the C++/CLI intellisense support to Herb Sutter on his blog and he said all future versions of VS will have support for C++/CLI. They recently moved to EDG front end and EDG doesn't have C++/CLI support. Hope intellisense will be back soon. :)

                                    Best wishes, Navaneeth

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                                      I am a proponent of C++/CLI like you. I asked about the C++/CLI intellisense support to Herb Sutter on his blog and he said all future versions of VS will have support for C++/CLI. They recently moved to EDG front end and EDG doesn't have C++/CLI support. Hope intellisense will be back soon. :)

                                      Best wishes, Navaneeth

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                                      Microsoft have a connect bug registered for this (ID#501921), maybe if enough people express an interest, they might get the implementation of this into the first service pack. - you never know :)

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