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  • C Chris Austin

    I think I've read this one before when I was in third grade. Except then it was called "The Monkey's Paw".

    And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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    Heh. That one was, "someone you do know dies, but you don't find out about it ahead of time".

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    • R ragnaroknrol

      No. Just if you push the button you get a million and someone you don't know dies. FYI: I'm pretty sure they find someone you don't know and offer them the same deal next. The trick is making sure you know everyone that gets the box. :-D

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      So, do you get to keep the box if you don't press the button?

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      • T thrakazog

        So coming out soon is the movie the box.[^] The basic premise of the movie is that you can hit a magic button that will give you a million dollars and kill somebody you don't know. I'm pretty sure after thinking it over like Stimpy here[^] I'd smash the jolly candy like button with my whole fist. Would you push the button?

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        It would be nice if you can push the button several times. I mean, one million is not so much when you wish a big motor yacht.

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        • T thrakazog

          So coming out soon is the movie the box.[^] The basic premise of the movie is that you can hit a magic button that will give you a million dollars and kill somebody you don't know. I'm pretty sure after thinking it over like Stimpy here[^] I'd smash the jolly candy like button with my whole fist. Would you push the button?

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          Maximilien
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          1 million $US is still considered a lot of money ??? must be recession time...

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          • T thrakazog

            So coming out soon is the movie the box.[^] The basic premise of the movie is that you can hit a magic button that will give you a million dollars and kill somebody you don't know. I'm pretty sure after thinking it over like Stimpy here[^] I'd smash the jolly candy like button with my whole fist. Would you push the button?

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            It's a bit mystifying how you can make a movie with such a thin premise as a *remake*. After all everyone will know the only twist in the story before they go to see it. :) As a twilight zone episode it was perfect subject matter for such a short format. As a movie though? After everyone knows the premise already? Bad idea. It frustrates me to no end that there are zillions of absolutely epic sci fi novels and short stories out there, any one of which would make an excellent movie or tv show in the right hands that are passed over for rehashing tired old ideas and remakes because of the sad risk averse mentality of the big entertainment industry.


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              So coming out soon is the movie the box.[^] The basic premise of the movie is that you can hit a magic button that will give you a million dollars and kill somebody you don't know. I'm pretty sure after thinking it over like Stimpy here[^] I'd smash the jolly candy like button with my whole fist. Would you push the button?

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              Corporal Agarn
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              Does the button pusher get informed who died? If not you could convince yourself that no one really dies.

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                It's a bit mystifying how you can make a movie with such a thin premise as a *remake*. After all everyone will know the only twist in the story before they go to see it. :) As a twilight zone episode it was perfect subject matter for such a short format. As a movie though? After everyone knows the premise already? Bad idea. It frustrates me to no end that there are zillions of absolutely epic sci fi novels and short stories out there, any one of which would make an excellent movie or tv show in the right hands that are passed over for rehashing tired old ideas and remakes because of the sad risk averse mentality of the big entertainment industry.


                "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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                I agree that Hollywood has a thing for remakes. The problem is sci fi is not considered movies. Look at the original Star Wars, it was in the theater in this area for a solid year! But they look at it like only a small group of people will come to see it. (I know I am showing my age but hey, at 54 age does not mean that much unless you are looking for work.)

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                  I agree that Hollywood has a thing for remakes. The problem is sci fi is not considered movies. Look at the original Star Wars, it was in the theater in this area for a solid year! But they look at it like only a small group of people will come to see it. (I know I am showing my age but hey, at 54 age does not mean that much unless you are looking for work.)

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                  djj55 wrote:

                  I agree that Hollywood has a thing for remakes

                  Hollywood, the music industry, the network tv industry, the restaurant industry, the clothing industry, the house building industry etc etc etc.

                  djj55 wrote:

                  The problem is sci fi is not considered movies

                  Not sure what you mean by that. There have been a *lot* of "blockbuster" sci fi movies but the ratio of truly good sci fi (and fantasy) stories to movie remake schlock is astounding.


                  "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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                  • C Corporal Agarn

                    Does the button pusher get informed who died? If not you could convince yourself that no one really dies.

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                    There are a lot of people with a very flexible conscience. They would push the button, take the money, put half of them for some charity, medical research etc. convincing themselves that they are saving more than one person and will keep the other half with now clear conscience.

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                      djj55 wrote:

                      I agree that Hollywood has a thing for remakes

                      Hollywood, the music industry, the network tv industry, the restaurant industry, the clothing industry, the house building industry etc etc etc.

                      djj55 wrote:

                      The problem is sci fi is not considered movies

                      Not sure what you mean by that. There have been a *lot* of "blockbuster" sci fi movies but the ratio of truly good sci fi (and fantasy) stories to movie remake schlock is astounding.


                      "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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                      John C wrote:

                      Not sure what you mean by that. There have been a *lot* of "blockbuster" sci fi movies but the ratio of truly good sci fi (and fantasy) stories to movie remake schlock is astounding.

                      Probably this has something to do with the special effects’ cost. Hopefully now when the prize of the computerized effects is going down we will see some quality SiFi moves. I personally can’t wait for the James Cameron’s “Avatar”.

                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                      • T thrakazog

                        So coming out soon is the movie the box.[^] The basic premise of the movie is that you can hit a magic button that will give you a million dollars and kill somebody you don't know. I'm pretty sure after thinking it over like Stimpy here[^] I'd smash the jolly candy like button with my whole fist. Would you push the button?

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                        Christian Graus
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                        I've seen the poster and assumed that's what it was about. It's an old Twilight Zone episode. The punchline was that it was clear at the end that the next people who pushed the button, would by doing so, kill the last person who decided that the death of a random person could be justified. No, I wouldn't.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          So, do you get to keep the box if you don't press the button?

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                          ragnaroknrol
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                          I would assume no. They want to take it to someone else to see if they will press it.

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                            It's a bit mystifying how you can make a movie with such a thin premise as a *remake*. After all everyone will know the only twist in the story before they go to see it. :) As a twilight zone episode it was perfect subject matter for such a short format. As a movie though? After everyone knows the premise already? Bad idea. It frustrates me to no end that there are zillions of absolutely epic sci fi novels and short stories out there, any one of which would make an excellent movie or tv show in the right hands that are passed over for rehashing tired old ideas and remakes because of the sad risk averse mentality of the big entertainment industry.


                            "Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg

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                            Christian Graus
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                            John C wrote:

                            After all everyone will know the only twist in the story before they go to see it. Smile

                            Yes, this has me beat, but I presume the answer is that they assume that their target audience was too young to have seen the Twilight Zone. I saw the poster and immediately got what it was. No chance I'd bother seeing it.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Does the button pusher get informed who died? If not you could convince yourself that no one really dies.

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                              If you saw the original Twilight Zone episode, the protagonists spend the episode convincing themselves that it doesn't really matter if one more person dies. Then when they get the money the guy tells them the button will now be given to someone else. 'Someone you've never met, someone you don't know'. The phrasing is the same as the way he described who would die, so it's clear when you push the button, the last person to push it, is the one who dies.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                I've seen the poster and assumed that's what it was about. It's an old Twilight Zone episode. The punchline was that it was clear at the end that the next people who pushed the button, would by doing so, kill the last person who decided that the death of a random person could be justified. No, I wouldn't.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Dinobot_Slag
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                                So it should really go something like "1. A random person dies 2. You get a million dollars 3. You die." But I guess that wouldn't be quite as intriguing.

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                                  I've seen the poster and assumed that's what it was about. It's an old Twilight Zone episode. The punchline was that it was clear at the end that the next people who pushed the button, would by doing so, kill the last person who decided that the death of a random person could be justified. No, I wouldn't.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  I believe 75% of this movie is them figuring this out and trying to go meet the next person in line to get the button. They can't kill you if the person with the box knows you. While a brilliant way not to get killed for being greedy, sooner or later you will either run out of money or time and so they will get you. Not exactly a good deal for you.

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                                    I would assume no. They want to take it to someone else to see if they will press it.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    In the Twilight Zone movie it was kind of like Eve and the apple. They had to keep looking at it, and therefore keep considering pressing it.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      I would assume no. They want to take it to someone else to see if they will press it.

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                                      Well, it makes a huge difference - if they keep trucking it around, then there's a chance you'll be the unknown stranger killed by some other selfish bastard.  And even if it isn't you, someone still gets killed regardless of which choice you make. Lots of fodder for rationalization, if you don't get to keep the box...

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                                        John C wrote:

                                        Not sure what you mean by that. There have been a *lot* of "blockbuster" sci fi movies but the ratio of truly good sci fi (and fantasy) stories to movie remake schlock is astounding.

                                        Probably this has something to do with the special effects’ cost. Hopefully now when the prize of the computerized effects is going down we will see some quality SiFi moves. I personally can’t wait for the James Cameron’s “Avatar”.

                                        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                        Avatar estimated production cost: $230 Million :omg:

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                                          Well, it makes a huge difference - if they keep trucking it around, then there's a chance you'll be the unknown stranger killed by some other selfish bastard.  And even if it isn't you, someone still gets killed regardless of which choice you make. Lots of fodder for rationalization, if you don't get to keep the box...

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                                          It's pretty safe to assume anyone willing to give you a million dollars to kill someone is willing to wait until someone else pushes the button to kill you. Safest way to deal with this is ask to be excused, push the button, get your money, then kill them and use power tools and a pig farm to dispose of them. I think I have been stuck in Iowa too long...

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