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    Bram van Kampen
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    Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

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      Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

      Bram van Kampen

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      Indivara
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      Just an idea, but wouldn't it be better to use an RFID based card instead of a magnetic card? They seem much easier to use, and are more durable (not erased by magnets), but I have no idea about the cost difference. (edit) http://www.rfid.org/[^] has links to RFID equipment suppliers.

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        Just an idea, but wouldn't it be better to use an RFID based card instead of a magnetic card? They seem much easier to use, and are more durable (not erased by magnets), but I have no idea about the cost difference. (edit) http://www.rfid.org/[^] has links to RFID equipment suppliers.

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        Bram van Kampen
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        Thanks, but:

        Indivara wrote:

        but I have no idea about the cost difference

        That aspect is sort of important. We are not trying to secure the Bank of England, or, somebody's bank account. We have many years of experience to know that most people want their own clothes back, not someone elses. We would consider the security risk very low. At the same time, we feel that something has to be in place. The system you suggest sounds expensive in terms of hardware required to implement. :)

        Bram van Kampen

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          Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

          Bram van Kampen

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          Christian Graus
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          Bram van Kampen wrote:

          When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards

          Wow - that's encouraging news.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Bram van Kampen wrote:

            When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards

            Wow - that's encouraging news.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            AspDotNetDev
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            I recently lost my credit card. I suspect it's in my apartment somewhere though (as I never actually put it in my wallet). Checking bank account...

            Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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              Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

              Bram van Kampen

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              Lost User
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              Here's[^] one that looks solid. Cheers, Drew.

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                Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                Bram van Kampen

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                sivrat10
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                you can try magtek.com. I believe they have an branch in the UK. They have a range of readers. I was using their insertion reader, but they have swipes in their range too. On terms of printing, check out zebra printers, they are not bad. I wouldn't worry about embossing too much, it is expensive, a good graphic on the card will be fine. As for encoders, the company I worked at had designed their own, so I cant help there. But you will be able to get away with a simple one, usually track 2 data is used, but you can go into 1 &3 too. Rfid while sexy, is a lot more expensive to setup. my last look it was around 5-10 time the price of swipe cards. HTH Travis

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                • I Indivara

                  Just an idea, but wouldn't it be better to use an RFID based card instead of a magnetic card? They seem much easier to use, and are more durable (not erased by magnets), but I have no idea about the cost difference. (edit) http://www.rfid.org/[^] has links to RFID equipment suppliers.

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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                  That's a brilliant idea. My guess will be that cost difference will not be much. When I was looking for RFIDs some time back they were quite cheap. But I never looked at magnetic readers.

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                    Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                    Bram van Kampen

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                    neilarnold
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                    For the cards themselves try Concept Cards http://www.conceptcard.co.uk/[^] Neil.

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                      Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                      Bram van Kampen

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Magtek is probably the leading edge in the card business. Look for them or any of their resellers. I believe they have both card readers and card "writers".

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                        Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                        Bram van Kampen

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Or use barcodes - you could then print them yourself for tags to attach to the clothing. Even cheaper than swipe cards!

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                        • B Bram van Kampen

                          Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                          Bram van Kampen

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                          aeastham
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                          Hi Bram, These guys might be worth giving a call to get you started: http://www.ultramagicard.com/applications/data-encoding/swipe-cards/?R=0 [^] Probably not the cheapest option, but would definitely result in a professional looking solution. Best regards, Andy

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                            Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                            Bram van Kampen

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                            Naruki 0
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                            They are the foremost card maker I know of, but I recommend against the mag stripe cards as almost everyone has cracked those. http://www.hidglobal.com/[^]

                            Narf.

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                              Just an idea, but wouldn't it be better to use an RFID based card instead of a magnetic card? They seem much easier to use, and are more durable (not erased by magnets), but I have no idea about the cost difference. (edit) http://www.rfid.org/[^] has links to RFID equipment suppliers.

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                              Sorry but RFID is a lot more expensive.

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                                Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

                                Bram van Kampen

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                                bryanmajury
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                                When I worked at Smart Club Solutions[^], I used Universal Smart Cards[^]. They supply the full range and are hard to beat on price. Also, they are very approachable and happy to advise, pre sale.

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                                  Thanks, but:

                                  Indivara wrote:

                                  but I have no idea about the cost difference

                                  That aspect is sort of important. We are not trying to secure the Bank of England, or, somebody's bank account. We have many years of experience to know that most people want their own clothes back, not someone elses. We would consider the security risk very low. At the same time, we feel that something has to be in place. The system you suggest sounds expensive in terms of hardware required to implement. :)

                                  Bram van Kampen

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                                  Fabio Franco
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                                  Bram van Kampen wrote:

                                  The system you suggest sounds expensive in terms of hardware required to implement.

                                  It is expensive, beleive me. The RFID tags are not expensive. Expensive are the readers an writers. And they are very expensive.

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                                    Bram van Kampen wrote:

                                    The system you suggest sounds expensive in terms of hardware required to implement.

                                    It is expensive, beleive me. The RFID tags are not expensive. Expensive are the readers an writers. And they are very expensive.

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                                    I see... that is unfortunate. The reason I suggested it is, the things are quite common here in Tokyo. Train / bus season ticket + debit card (cash deducted per use), e-cash, cell phones, door locks (for companies, not household ones)... there must be billions of them around. I assumed they would be a little more expensive, but not prohibitively so (didn't think of the reader's cost).

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                                      Hi, Does anyone know where to get Magnetic Stripe Cards, Card Embossing, Card Readers, Pin Terminals etc. for legitimate reasons. When googeling, I am burried with links to Hacker sites, trying to sell all sorts of items to forge Credit Cards. I am developing a Software Package for Laundrettes and Drycleaners based in the UK and Ireland, a Swipecard would be the logical successor to a Laundry Ticket.

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                                      I've been down this road of searching for suppliers in the past and ultimately dealt with a company in the Chicago area called Perfect Plastic, www.perfectplastic.com . My company is based in Ireland, we had no hassle dealing remotely with this supplier and they were very helpful. My one suggestion to you is to have your homework done, be very specific in your requirements. Mag stripe is still the cheapest solution and you will get good pricing for volume orders, e.g. $0.08 per card. If possible, check to see if your solution fits into a known ISO or other standard, your app becomes more adaptable for reuse if you can unearth a standard. Adding bar coding is not expensive. Smartcard tech is still relatively expensive whether chip n pin or rfid, proximity etc Hope that helps

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                                        Or use barcodes - you could then print them yourself for tags to attach to the clothing. Even cheaper than swipe cards!

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                                        Exactly. In my last job, I built POS for Dry-cleaning. Per the (software Company's) owner's request, everything was done via bar-codes. Tickets. "VIP" Cards. Drop-off bags. You name it. Cost to print was not even a consideration. If you cared to put them into plastic laminate, it was still trivial. Worried about forgery? Use 2D bar-codes and encrypt the data. You could link each key to a specific account and further increase security. Why even bother with the magnetic strip?

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                                          I see... that is unfortunate. The reason I suggested it is, the things are quite common here in Tokyo. Train / bus season ticket + debit card (cash deducted per use), e-cash, cell phones, door locks (for companies, not household ones)... there must be billions of them around. I assumed they would be a little more expensive, but not prohibitively so (didn't think of the reader's cost).

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                                          Fabio Franco
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                                          Depending of the magnitude of the project, it might be worth the costs, but to small budget projects, this might be a constraint. Of course, it all depends of the use. Some readers (like anttenas) are very expensive, others (like handhelds) are still expensive, but not that much. And there are the lower cost readers (small close range with no interface devices). But all of them are more expensive than magnetic readers. Again, all depends on the needs. RFID could be a solution, but it rarely is for small budget projects. It is usually not worth the extra costs. But a study needs to be made prior to taking such a decision. Also, I've not seen any RFID writers at a reasonable cost. Regards, Fábio

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