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  • T Tony Richards

    As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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    We observed 2 minutes silence at 11:00 in my office, although I could still hear mouse clicks and typing sounds. To be honest, I wouldn't have remembered if my boss hadn't made an announcement.

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      We observed 2 minutes silence at 11:00 in my office, although I could still hear mouse clicks and typing sounds. To be honest, I wouldn't have remembered if my boss hadn't made an announcement.

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      tufkap wrote:

      although I could still hear mouse clicks and typing sounds

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      • T Tony Richards

        As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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        Stuart Dootson
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        Company wide silence here. It wasn't announced in our office (the loudspeaker system's bust here), but we knew it was 11am.

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        • T Tony Richards

          As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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          Dario Solera
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          In Italy we're more inclined to do a similar thing on April 25, as it is the day recognized as the end of combats between the Resistance and nazis/fascists, started a few days earlier in 1945 as a nation-wide insurrection. Actually, it's more like a feast, very much like on June 2, Day of the Republic. I guess things turned out to be a bit different on the other side. The end of the war was just the beginning of the reconstruction and, basically, a new era altogether for Italy. You know, I feel somewhat guilty, deep in my person, that my Country participated at such a terrible war on the wrong side (or at all).

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          • T Tony Richards

            As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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            Simon P Stevens
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            Last year I was driving along a motorway at 11:00. I was listening to it being announced on the radio, and all the traffic slowed down to 50mph. It wasn't particularly busy, so there wasn't a need to slow up or anything, it just happened. The outside lane was totally clear, just no one was using it.

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            • T Tony Richards

              As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              If I'm driving, and it's safe to do so, I pull over to the side of the road to observe the silence. I schedule meetings so that they don't overlap. It's more poignant this year, now that the last of our soldiers has died.

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              • T Tony Richards

                As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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                Dave Parker
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                Wasn't even aware of it. Nobody stopped here anyway. Looking back at my timesheet I was in a phone conference at the time.

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                • T Tony Richards

                  As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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                  LabVIEWstuff
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                  I did stop to observe it, but was in a datacentre at the time so wasn't surrounded by silence :-(. Next year I'll make a point of going out to my car or something just to have the oportunity for some quiet reflection. Andy B

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                  • T tufkap

                    We observed 2 minutes silence at 11:00 in my office, although I could still hear mouse clicks and typing sounds. To be honest, I wouldn't have remembered if my boss hadn't made an announcement.

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                    Russell Jones
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                    I was appalled at the number of people who carried on typing during the silence. We had a signal that it was starting so there was no excuse whatsoever just a complete lack of respect.

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                    • T Tony Richards

                      As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Not to degrade what you're saying at all, but I've always wondered why we "honor the dead" and have "two minutes of silence" etc. It seems like (naively) to me that if we honored the living and had two minutes of celebration of peace, the world might be a better place. Marc

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Not to degrade what you're saying at all, but I've always wondered why we "honor the dead" and have "two minutes of silence" etc. It seems like (naively) to me that if we honored the living and had two minutes of celebration of peace, the world might be a better place. Marc

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                        Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                        I can see where you're coming from - my contrarian nature makes me have nothing to do with pink ribbons until I see celebs promoting uncute causes too (see an earlier rant). But in this case, I think we can do both - after all, the peace you wish to celebrate (rightfully!) peace came at a cost. Our forebears served and died to protect liberty from tyrants. I'm sure a significant number of "the other side" thought they were doing what was right too. [*] It does us no harm to appreciate our current peace, and the price paid for it. Now, for a real moral dilemma - should I have gone quiet at 11am local, or at 11am uk (I wore my poppy alone in Sweden - at least that I could see) ? Iain. [*] The thing that annoys me is the revisionism. All of France was in the resistance, apparently. (They're a prime example, not a lone one)

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Not to degrade what you're saying at all, but I've always wondered why we "honor the dead" and have "two minutes of silence" etc. It seems like (naively) to me that if we honored the living and had two minutes of celebration of peace, the world might be a better place. Marc

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                          I kind of see what you mean, but this is how I look at it: I observe the two minutes' silence to remember those who have died to protect my freedom (and, despite what many people say about the various western governments, and trying not to get too 'soapboxy' I am free). If we forget them and their fight, we run the risk that all that happened then will be repeated. I buy a poppy, donating money to the Royal British Legion, to support those in the military and their families who are alive and doing a job that I believe (again, not wanting to get too 'soapboxy') is doing a lot of good. Incidently, I am also a volunteer First Aider for St John Ambulance (a First Aid Charity). I do believe war should be avoided at all costs, but some things are worth fighting for. Naturally, you're entitled to your own opinion, and I do appreciate what you're getting at.

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                            I kind of see what you mean, but this is how I look at it: I observe the two minutes' silence to remember those who have died to protect my freedom (and, despite what many people say about the various western governments, and trying not to get too 'soapboxy' I am free). If we forget them and their fight, we run the risk that all that happened then will be repeated. I buy a poppy, donating money to the Royal British Legion, to support those in the military and their families who are alive and doing a job that I believe (again, not wanting to get too 'soapboxy') is doing a lot of good. Incidently, I am also a volunteer First Aider for St John Ambulance (a First Aid Charity). I do believe war should be avoided at all costs, but some things are worth fighting for. Naturally, you're entitled to your own opinion, and I do appreciate what you're getting at.

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Tony Richards wrote:

                            I kind of see what you mean, but this is how I look at it:

                            Indeed, I too observed two minutes of silence. The past is the past, and I agree completely, we need to honor those that died protecting us. It's a strange thing actually, that fairly soon, there will be no one who fought in the world wars alive anymore. Being able to actually talk directly to someone about there experiences will be gone. I recall something on NPR a few weeks ago about someone recording (video) the testimonials of the remaining Jews that experienced holocaust. Marc

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                              In Italy we're more inclined to do a similar thing on April 25, as it is the day recognized as the end of combats between the Resistance and nazis/fascists, started a few days earlier in 1945 as a nation-wide insurrection. Actually, it's more like a feast, very much like on June 2, Day of the Republic. I guess things turned out to be a bit different on the other side. The end of the war was just the beginning of the reconstruction and, basically, a new era altogether for Italy. You know, I feel somewhat guilty, deep in my person, that my Country participated at such a terrible war on the wrong side (or at all).

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                              Garth J Lancaster
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                              Dario Solera wrote:

                              You know, I feel somewhat guilty, deep in my person, that my Country participated at such a terrible war on the wrong side (or at all).

                              I don't think you have any reason to think so - nor, on that hand, do the modern day Germans, but I was told that a lot of them still had thoughts or issues like yours I personally love your country and the Italian people, and would never ever dream of making a comment like 'well, you were on the wrong side' or such .. ok, I'll admit, we joke amongst ourselves if we're meeting a German 'just dont mention the war' (think that was from a Fawlty Towers episode), and I did make a comment to 'home' when I was in Italy a few weeks ago about Mussolini's influence still being felt in that the trains and ferries (around Lago di Como/Bellagio) still running on time. (interestingly for me, I drove through the village (Dongo) on the western side of Lago di Como where Mussolini was executed after having been caught with his lover trying to escape to Switzerland) .. but no, Dario, you cant help what has gone before you, and I dont know anyone who would try to persecute modern day Italians or Germans for it - hopefully we have all learn't and moved on, and maybe the armistice/silence 'lest we forget' will remind people we don't want to go back there (ok, so Im glossing over WWII, Vietnam, IRAQ etc ... ) ciao Garth

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                              • T Tony Richards

                                As I'm sure most people have noticed, today is the 11th November, Armistice Day. It has just been 11:00 in the UK, and I stopped to observe the two minutes silence. It occured to me that, at least in my office, I was the only who did. Does anyone else here stop for two minutes at 11:00, whenever it reaches that time for you? I know we used to do it every year at school, not enforced, but a case of 'if you don't want to observe it, respect those who do', but I've noticed a lot of people don't bother once they've left.

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                                smcnulty2000
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                                We observe Veteran's Day in the US, and there is no two minutes of silence in our observance. It passes as a bank holiday for most, and a regard to various wars for others. Then again, we didn't mobilize or lose nearly as many people as Britain did in that war. I've heard it said the Europe lost the flower of a generation. I shudder when I remember the photographs, or think of the numbers. The same way as I do with the US Civil War. For the dead: :rose:

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