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    ragnaroknrol wrote:

    and my personal favorite is a "Let me Google that for you." link...

    Sir ji, I need source code for Google for my doctorate, plz snd urgentz!

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    The Man from U N C L E
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    Love it. :laugh: :laugh:

    If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      May I recommend a healthy dose of sarcasm, along with a side order of snide and a mere smidgen of desolate, bleak futility? You missed out the rant on how these people demand an answer, and then get all snarky, shirty and mad because you point out to them that they could try and help themselves before posting an inane and easily answered by somebody who had even the most basic modicum of self discipline.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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      The Man from U N C L E
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      I think it was only a day or so back there was a post followed up two minutes later by the same poster asking if anyone was listening, why had no-one answered yet. Hmm... everyone in the world must have been out at lunch.

      If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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        I think it was only a day or so back there was a post followed up two minutes later by the same poster asking if anyone was listening, why had no-one answered yet. Hmm... everyone in the world must have been out at lunch.

        If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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        Pete OHanlon
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        I've cut back a lot giving answers in the forums because of the sheer inanity I ended up with. On top of that, I started to receive email requests from people on the WPF forums asking for me to help them. I run a business - I don't have time to write other peoples software for them.

        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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        • T The Man from U N C L E

          This is definitely a rant, and I apologise in advance for letting off steam, but I bet I am not the only one. Time for a collective scream! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold my hands up, I am a recent frequenter of the forums. Having been a CodeProject member for some time I decided to give back to the community and see if I could help answer some of the simpler questions. Not always right but hopefully helpful. Little did I realise what I was letting myself in for. I have seen to many daft coding questions that can be answered by Google, or a Book, or even just the intellisense in the IDE! Some you wonder how the poster managed to post, the question is so obvious. Homework questions, dissertation questions. My view had been that a forum is the last resort having tried all other avenues for a really difficult problem. Now I find that people are still asking how to make a wheel. Here is my question: Someone posts a basic question on the forums that any coder who has even touched a keyboard could answer. Yet this is someone days away from getting a doctorate! How do they expect to get a job? Then I realised, they will get a job, then they will post again for every little thing they need to do because employers will take anyone with a qualification. It saddens me how this behaviour cheapens our profession.

          If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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          pelnor
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          It's not just the people asking the questions either. Some of these same geniuses love to drive threads into the ground once a decent question has been asked. Question: Here's what I'm trying to accomplish. I've tried X, Y, and Z with no luck. Does anyone have a suggestion? Only to be met with an answer of: Why would you want to do that? You should do these completely unrelated things instead... Anyone who attempts to answer something starting with "why would you want to do that" should be banished from answering questions for a year. 5 years for anyone doing that on the MSDN forums.

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          • T The Man from U N C L E

            This is definitely a rant, and I apologise in advance for letting off steam, but I bet I am not the only one. Time for a collective scream! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold my hands up, I am a recent frequenter of the forums. Having been a CodeProject member for some time I decided to give back to the community and see if I could help answer some of the simpler questions. Not always right but hopefully helpful. Little did I realise what I was letting myself in for. I have seen to many daft coding questions that can be answered by Google, or a Book, or even just the intellisense in the IDE! Some you wonder how the poster managed to post, the question is so obvious. Homework questions, dissertation questions. My view had been that a forum is the last resort having tried all other avenues for a really difficult problem. Now I find that people are still asking how to make a wheel. Here is my question: Someone posts a basic question on the forums that any coder who has even touched a keyboard could answer. Yet this is someone days away from getting a doctorate! How do they expect to get a job? Then I realised, they will get a job, then they will post again for every little thing they need to do because employers will take anyone with a qualification. It saddens me how this behaviour cheapens our profession.

            If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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            Tim Craig
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            And these people are majoring in computer science or related technical degree, have access to the internet, and enough internet savy to find CodeProject, but don't seem to be able to find information using Google that any clueless imbecile should get tons of references for. What does that tell us other than they're the future and the epicenter of computing is moving to the East? :laugh:

            You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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            • P pelnor

              It's not just the people asking the questions either. Some of these same geniuses love to drive threads into the ground once a decent question has been asked. Question: Here's what I'm trying to accomplish. I've tried X, Y, and Z with no luck. Does anyone have a suggestion? Only to be met with an answer of: Why would you want to do that? You should do these completely unrelated things instead... Anyone who attempts to answer something starting with "why would you want to do that" should be banished from answering questions for a year. 5 years for anyone doing that on the MSDN forums.

              Latest toy built for fun: full size Google image search.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              There are a couple of valid reasons for doing that. You might ask this because there are a couple of possible scenarios that involve this, and the right answer depends on what the reason for the task is - this helps narrow it down. The second reason is because the solution to the problem is unrelated - suppose somebody is doing something with a really bad design - pointing out a better way is a legitimate answer.

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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              • T The Man from U N C L E

                This is definitely a rant, and I apologise in advance for letting off steam, but I bet I am not the only one. Time for a collective scream! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold my hands up, I am a recent frequenter of the forums. Having been a CodeProject member for some time I decided to give back to the community and see if I could help answer some of the simpler questions. Not always right but hopefully helpful. Little did I realise what I was letting myself in for. I have seen to many daft coding questions that can be answered by Google, or a Book, or even just the intellisense in the IDE! Some you wonder how the poster managed to post, the question is so obvious. Homework questions, dissertation questions. My view had been that a forum is the last resort having tried all other avenues for a really difficult problem. Now I find that people are still asking how to make a wheel. Here is my question: Someone posts a basic question on the forums that any coder who has even touched a keyboard could answer. Yet this is someone days away from getting a doctorate! How do they expect to get a job? Then I realised, they will get a job, then they will post again for every little thing they need to do because employers will take anyone with a qualification. It saddens me how this behaviour cheapens our profession.

                If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                I've done contract work for academic customers. Some of them have given me source code, some of which they authored, some by their graduate students. Oh. My. Gawd. I have never seen such a complete lack of the most basic software engineering principles. No naming conventions. Inconsistent formatting. Poor organization. Including entire libraries for one simple function they could have implemented themselves. Not initializing/terminating libraries and dependencies properly. Constructors that don't initialize members, and destructors that don't release resources. Global variables out the wazoo. Global variables named 'xxx', 'zz2', and 'yy_temp'. AAAaaaaarrrgggghhhh! I would dearly love to teach a university course called Real World Programming Practices: What This University Won't Teach You.

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                • T The Man from U N C L E

                  The selection of subjects is even funnier: - Help (this is very common) - Please help (at least it is polite) - I have a problem (finally some honesty) Of course the vast majority have some sense to them, but there are some really awful subject lines. Possible question for a Code Project Poll: What is the worst/funniest/silliest subject line you have ever seen?

                  If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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                  You forgot "Urgent !!!! Please help !!!!" :-D

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                    You forgot "Urgent !!!! Please help !!!!" :-D

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                    Ian Shlasko
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                    To which the proper response is: "So when is the homework assignment due?"

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                    • T The Man from U N C L E

                      This is definitely a rant, and I apologise in advance for letting off steam, but I bet I am not the only one. Time for a collective scream! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold my hands up, I am a recent frequenter of the forums. Having been a CodeProject member for some time I decided to give back to the community and see if I could help answer some of the simpler questions. Not always right but hopefully helpful. Little did I realise what I was letting myself in for. I have seen to many daft coding questions that can be answered by Google, or a Book, or even just the intellisense in the IDE! Some you wonder how the poster managed to post, the question is so obvious. Homework questions, dissertation questions. My view had been that a forum is the last resort having tried all other avenues for a really difficult problem. Now I find that people are still asking how to make a wheel. Here is my question: Someone posts a basic question on the forums that any coder who has even touched a keyboard could answer. Yet this is someone days away from getting a doctorate! How do they expect to get a job? Then I realised, they will get a job, then they will post again for every little thing they need to do because employers will take anyone with a qualification. It saddens me how this behaviour cheapens our profession.

                      If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it. Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850) www.JacksonSoft.co.uk

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                      Jamie Nordmeyer
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                      Easy my friend. Just use this site: http://www.lmgtfy.com/[^]

                      Jamie Nordmeyer
                      Portland, Oregon, USA
                      http://www.feralcodemonkies.com

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