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Vaccination: Federal Health Agencies Continue to Deceive Americans [modified]

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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Christian Graus wrote:

    My point is entirely that it would not be possible for it to make me autistic.

    But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic. END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

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    Christian Graus
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    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic

    Two people who have researched this are telling you this is a lie.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    . END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

    Is that the same as 'please don't confuse me with facts' ? You're wrong. Your idiot leader is wrong. This is a pile of ignorance.

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      From my reference, this table gives a clue for California Net Growth in Persons Diagnosed with Autistic Spectrum Disorders, CA Per Capita Consumption of High Fructose Corn Syrup, US, 1987-2006[^] However, you might find this interesting (from same reference) [quote] With regard to total mercury exposure, the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) recommends an exposure limit of 1 ppm for mercury in their 2005 Evaluation of Food Additives report [142]. This report does not specifically address the mercury content in the food color additives tartrazine also known as FD&C Yellow 5 or sunset yellow also known as FD&C Yellow 6 but these chemicals are manufactured with the chlor-alkali product "hydrogen chloride" and may not contain more than 1 ppm mercury according to US Food and Drug Administration regulations [143]. In addition to causing zinc deficiency, both of these food color additives have been linked to hyperactivity in children [71] and the United Kingdom has asked manufacturers to voluntarily ban their use in food products [144]. [/quote] Note those ingredients found in certain "children's" soft drinks

      modified on Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:30 PM

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      I don't get why you guys use this crap so much. Is it because you don't grow any sugar ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        I don't get why you guys use this crap so much. Is it because you don't grow any sugar ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        There is sugar and there is sugar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup[^] (please see my modified post, above) Out of interest ... washingtonpost.com : Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury[^]

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        • C Christian Graus

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic

          Two people who have researched this are telling you this is a lie.

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          . END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

          Is that the same as 'please don't confuse me with facts' ? You're wrong. Your idiot leader is wrong. This is a pile of ignorance.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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            Christian Graus
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

            As usual, you over simplify. I'd have thought that no-one would trust anyone who tells lies in grainy you tube videos and yet... Mercury IS harmful, if you have enough of it. As I point out above, there's more in fish than there is in a vaccine. And you eat fish more often. Either way, mercury being harmful does not mean it causes autism. And you still haven't answered the motive question.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • L Lost User

              There is sugar and there is sugar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup[^] (please see my modified post, above) Out of interest ... washingtonpost.com : Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              I know it's essentially sugar, the question is, why source it from corn ? Is it even an efficient way to end up with sugar ? I know corn is an inefficient source of biofuel, precisely because of the cost of turning it to sugar.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Lost User
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                NOBODY has stated that mercury is anything but dangerous. But it is EVERYWHERE including (all be it in very small amounts) the cough syrup you are so fond of drinking. And government isn't responsible for the cough syrup you drink, YOU are alone responsible for deciding to consume that substance.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I know it's essentially sugar, the question is, why source it from corn ? Is it even an efficient way to end up with sugar ? I know corn is an inefficient source of biofuel, precisely because of the cost of turning it to sugar.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  why source it from corn

                  The simple reason, the good old USofA, being good capitalists, because it is a helluva lot cheaper than sugar from Cane.

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                    NOBODY has stated that mercury is anything but dangerous. But it is EVERYWHERE including (all be it in very small amounts) the cough syrup you are so fond of drinking. And government isn't responsible for the cough syrup you drink, YOU are alone responsible for deciding to consume that substance.

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                    Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters. Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters. Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                      Some references for you to read. Mercury in human brain, blood, muscle and toenails in relation to exposure: an autopsy study[^] A survey of pediatricians' attitudes regarding influenza immunization in children[^] Parental knowledge of paediatric vaccination[^] Let me know if you want more ...

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                      • L Lost User

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        why source it from corn

                        The simple reason, the good old USofA, being good capitalists, because it is a helluva lot cheaper than sugar from Cane.

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                        That seems odd to me. I'd have guessed it's more that the corn lobby in the US is powerful. How is sugar from corn cheaper than sugar from sugar cane ? Esp because of how much fertilizer it takes to grow corn.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          That seems odd to me. I'd have guessed it's more that the corn lobby in the US is powerful. How is sugar from corn cheaper than sugar from sugar cane ? Esp because of how much fertilizer it takes to grow corn.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_syrup[^] [quote] Corn syrup is a syrup, made using cornstarch as a feedstock, and composed mainly of glucose. A series of two enzymatic reactions are used to convert the cornstarch to corn syrup.[1] Its major uses in commercially-prepared foods are as a thickener, sweetener, and for its moisture-retaining (humectant) properties which keep foods moist and help to maintain freshness.[2] Corn syrup is used to soften texture, add volume, prohibit crystallization and enhance flavour. Because cane sugar quotas raise the price of sugar in the United States,[3] domestically produced corn syrup and high-fructose corn syrup are a less expensive alternative often used in American-made processed and mass-produced foods, candies, soft drinks and fruit drinks to help control cost. [/quote]

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters. Thimerosal Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that. The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs

                            Yes, they LIMIT exposure. Note that a serve of swordfish contains more mercury than a vaccination.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_syrup[^] [quote] Corn syrup is a syrup, made using cornstarch as a feedstock, and composed mainly of glucose. A series of two enzymatic reactions are used to convert the cornstarch to corn syrup.[1] Its major uses in commercially-prepared foods are as a thickener, sweetener, and for its moisture-retaining (humectant) properties which keep foods moist and help to maintain freshness.[2] Corn syrup is used to soften texture, add volume, prohibit crystallization and enhance flavour. Because cane sugar quotas raise the price of sugar in the United States,[3] domestically produced corn syrup and high-fructose corn syrup are a less expensive alternative often used in American-made processed and mass-produced foods, candies, soft drinks and fruit drinks to help control cost. [/quote]

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                              Christian Graus
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                              OK, so the price is artificially high. Who sets those quotas, I wonder ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                How dare you support something that adversely effects massive numbers of people so negatively that it impacts their life most devastatingly.

                                How do you dare to continue to peddle this drivel, but when several people tried to discuss why you believe the government is going the long way around to deliberately poison people, when it would be easier and less tracable to put something in your water ( apart from the question of their motive ), you fail to post for days in order to avoid the discussion. The first thing any criminal prosecutor will try to do, is prove motive. There's no motive for the government to do the things you claim, you can't provide one. Assuming this stuff is true, why do you think the government is spending a lot of money to inject 'neurotoxins', in effect they are selecting to kill exactly the people who believe their 'propaganda'. Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the sheep and kill wise people like you and your you tube friends, the ones who are on to them ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Why is it no one questions his sources? as usual, CSS quotes idiots. But no one questions his sources. Sure, Gary Null has a PhD. But you can get a PhD in scratching your ass these days. Infact, Null's (love that last name, btw) PhD is in "Interdisciplinary Studies". Where did he get his PhD? The Union Institute and University, which by the way does not cover awarding of PhDs in the sciences, only in the humanities. Oh, and he is a registered nutritionist. On my death bed, if I have a choice of someone with a PhD in medicine or a registered nutritionist, well let's just say I'm more concerned with whatever ails me then a balanced diet. Can someone please ditch this bastard?

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