Global Warming
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Mother nature is just a complete skitzo now... Wednesday it felt like... I don't know, had to be maybe 35 degrees... Maybe colder. Yesterday it was 65 and my bosses were leaving work early to play golf. Today, it's heading back down, just below 50 at the moment. The only way it could be stranger would be if we had a blizzard tomorrow, and the snow melted just in time to hit the beach on Sunday.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
I hope you're joking, because obviously, no-one who talks about global warming ever suggests that it means that no where on earth will ever get cooler for short periods. It snowed in Dallas a few days ago.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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How does one 'believe' or not 'believe' in scientific fact ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I hope you're joking, because obviously, no-one who talks about global warming ever suggests that it means that no where on earth will ever get cooler for short periods. It snowed in Dallas a few days ago.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Global warming is a myth! I left my air conditioner on all day, and my apartment is FREEZING! :) Seriously, though, people just don't understand the difference between local weather and regional/global climate.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Given the level of humidity in Houston, I'm suprised the whole area just doesn't turn into a giant block of ice when it gets cold.
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If I stop believing in gravity, will I be able to fly?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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If I stop believing in gravity, will I be able to fly?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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How does one 'believe' or not 'believe' in scientific fact ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'Fact' I was previously unaware of. There is a theory, back-up by some evidence of the existance of global warming. There is another theory backed up by other evidence of Global Cooling. There is yet a third theory that states that the above two theories are utter crap and that the climate is changing just as it has done for the last 4.3 Billion years. Be careful of the word Fact Christian, it is only a fact if it is accepted as such, and as yet the committee is undecided!
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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I was just telling that to our Murine Overlords the other day.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'Fact' I was previously unaware of. There is a theory, back-up by some evidence of the existance of global warming. There is another theory backed up by other evidence of Global Cooling. There is yet a third theory that states that the above two theories are utter crap and that the climate is changing just as it has done for the last 4.3 Billion years. Be careful of the word Fact Christian, it is only a fact if it is accepted as such, and as yet the committee is undecided!
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
Isn't that why they now prefer the term "Climate Change"? That the climate changes is a fact that I don't believe anybody would dispute. Whether or not the changes are man-made or controllable is a matter for some debate.
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This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'Fact' I was previously unaware of. There is a theory, back-up by some evidence of the existance of global warming. There is another theory backed up by other evidence of Global Cooling. There is yet a third theory that states that the above two theories are utter crap and that the climate is changing just as it has done for the last 4.3 Billion years. Be careful of the word Fact Christian, it is only a fact if it is accepted as such, and as yet the committee is undecided!
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
Regardless of what proportion is man made, that the earth is in the process of warming is pretty much beyond dispute. how much of that is natural, how much is man made, how the rate that occured up to the late 90s reflects future trends, is all up in the air. That Al Gore is a liar and a moron is, I think, beyond dispute. That doesn't mean the earth is getting colder, just because it snowed in Houston. In fact, the overall theory of global warming as it's currently understood, is that the world's mean temperature is trending upwards. It also expects that some areas would get colder, it's the overall average worldwide that causes the term 'global warming' to be used to describe it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Isn't that why they now prefer the term "Climate Change"? That the climate changes is a fact that I don't believe anybody would dispute. Whether or not the changes are man-made or controllable is a matter for some debate.
Indeed! I hope it gets as warm as it did before the Ice Age we are currently in, but it is reckoned only to rise by about 3-4 degrees, rather than the 8 or so needed to achieve my goal. Still, it would save a lot on energy bills. And think of all the extra food that would be grown.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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Isn't that why they now prefer the term "Climate Change"? That the climate changes is a fact that I don't believe anybody would dispute. Whether or not the changes are man-made or controllable is a matter for some debate.
Dan_Martin wrote:
Whether or not the changes are man-made or controllable is a matter for some debate.
I do believe that the degree to which they are man made is a subject for debate. The estimate given by scientists today is that there's a 90% chance that it is, but that could still be wrong. Intelligent discussion allows for such margins. Saying there's no such thing as warming because it snowed two years running, is obviously a glib comment and I would hope is not meant as a precursor to intelligent discussion on the issue.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Indeed! I hope it gets as warm as it did before the Ice Age we are currently in, but it is reckoned only to rise by about 3-4 degrees, rather than the 8 or so needed to achieve my goal. Still, it would save a lot on energy bills. And think of all the extra food that would be grown.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
It is plainly true that there will be positives and negatives to any climate change that occurs, naturally or otherwise. It's also plainly true that the sea rises anyhow, and any problems that this causes man ( just like the statistics on the growth in casualities and losses due to hurricanes ), are mostly caused by our desire to live on coastlines. I would love it if, instead of blindly spending money to try to 'stop warming' or 'stop CO2', we did actual cost benefit analysis of what we hope to do, and what we can expect to get for our money. What I mean is, I am sure that the people most likely to be affected, would benefit more from direct investment, than some sort of CO2 cap and trade deal.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Regardless of what proportion is man made, that the earth is in the process of warming is pretty much beyond dispute. how much of that is natural, how much is man made, how the rate that occured up to the late 90s reflects future trends, is all up in the air. That Al Gore is a liar and a moron is, I think, beyond dispute. That doesn't mean the earth is getting colder, just because it snowed in Houston. In fact, the overall theory of global warming as it's currently understood, is that the world's mean temperature is trending upwards. It also expects that some areas would get colder, it's the overall average worldwide that causes the term 'global warming' to be used to describe it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Regardless of what proportion is man made, that the earth is in the process of warming is pretty much beyond dispute
The point is that it IS in dispute. There is evidence that there has been no recorded rise in temperature in the last 80 odd years (the era of accurate measurement). The evidence that there has been warming can be explained by measurement criteria (ie microclimates and topgraphy). I do believe, as it happens, that there may be a slight warming, but cannot see how CO2 can be blamed. Methane is 100x more effective as a Greenhouse gas, and three major Volcanic Releases in the past 100 years will have put more of that into the atmosphere than all of industry. (Mount St Helens alone accounted in one blast the entire output of the US Methane releases since the USA was created). Then there are the sulphates released as well, these will cause a diminuation in stratus based measurements. It is just dim to say 'It is man-made' without all the facts and evidence.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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Well, as another indication of global warming, it is now snowing in Houston, Texas, USA on December 4th. Last year it snowed on December 10th. I believe this is the first time it has ever snowed 2 years in a row in Houston -- I know it is during my lifetime here. Ahh yes, global warming ...
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Surely by now we all know that global warming isn't warming but movement of heat!!! Heat from Texas is going up North to finally heat those Penguin's toes, they deserve warm toes. Now people in Houston get to play in the disgusting white powder know as snow. (It is cold and wet, I don't like either, so snow is the Anti-me) ;)
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Christian Graus wrote:
Regardless of what proportion is man made, that the earth is in the process of warming is pretty much beyond dispute
The point is that it IS in dispute. There is evidence that there has been no recorded rise in temperature in the last 80 odd years (the era of accurate measurement). The evidence that there has been warming can be explained by measurement criteria (ie microclimates and topgraphy). I do believe, as it happens, that there may be a slight warming, but cannot see how CO2 can be blamed. Methane is 100x more effective as a Greenhouse gas, and three major Volcanic Releases in the past 100 years will have put more of that into the atmosphere than all of industry. (Mount St Helens alone accounted in one blast the entire output of the US Methane releases since the USA was created). Then there are the sulphates released as well, these will cause a diminuation in stratus based measurements. It is just dim to say 'It is man-made' without all the facts and evidence.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
Well said Dave. Now can we have carrier bags back at Sainsburys please?
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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+5 H2G2 reference :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)