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The terminator chip arrives ..... for christmas

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    muzzdeni
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8392392.stm[^] Well not a neural net of sorts(With regards to the movie), but still, quite impressive, considering it uses the x86 architecture and it is not a GPU.

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      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8392392.stm[^] Well not a neural net of sorts(With regards to the movie), but still, quite impressive, considering it uses the x86 architecture and it is not a GPU.

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      Very sweet. I wonder if it would run Windows 7 really fast :) Or maybe 24 copies really normally :)


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        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8392392.stm[^] Well not a neural net of sorts(With regards to the movie), but still, quite impressive, considering it uses the x86 architecture and it is not a GPU.

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        They're rather primitive x86 cores by modern standards though. At ~25M transistors/core they're roughly half as big as an atom (45M) and roughly the same size as the decade old AMD k7 Athlons (22M) or coppermine p3 (28M). http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/12/intel-demos-48-core-cloud-datacenter-on-a-chip.ars[^]

        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8392392.stm[^] Well not a neural net of sorts(With regards to the movie), but still, quite impressive, considering it uses the x86 architecture and it is not a GPU.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need? Holy cr@p! Come to think of it, what about the heatsink? Thermal management is going to be interesting.

          No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones "Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows"

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            Very sweet. I wonder if it would run Windows 7 really fast :) Or maybe 24 copies really normally :)


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            Apparently the idea is to run a VM per core; and one of the questions intel wants its OS R&D partners to explore is how much of the networking system should be done on die vs going to an external router and what level of in die firewall is needed as a result. Based on listed TDP (25-125W) or .5 to 4.5W per core performance will at best be in the atom class, but owing to the simpler CPU design almost certainly below that. OTOH a p3-800 can run Weven reasonably well.

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8392392.stm[^] Well not a neural net of sorts(With regards to the movie), but still, quite impressive, considering it uses the x86 architecture and it is not a GPU.

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              muzzdeni wrote:

              The terminator chimp arrives

              :laugh:

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              • R Ray Cassick

                Very sweet. I wonder if it would run Windows 7 really fast :) Or maybe 24 copies really normally :)


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                I prefer windows seven over vista now, considering it I installed it on a 4 year old computer which had a vista install originally. It is much smoother and gaming is definatly not an issue any more!

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                  Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need? Holy cr@p! Come to think of it, what about the heatsink? Thermal management is going to be interesting.

                  No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones "Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows"

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                  Apperntly I uses between 25-125 watts, Intels website has more info http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20091202comp_sm.htm#story[^]

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                    Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need? Holy cr@p! Come to think of it, what about the heatsink? Thermal management is going to be interesting.

                    No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones "Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows"

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need?

                    Yes, my thoughts exactly. Bumping number of cores without significant changes to underlying the memory model (or underlying hardware architecture for that matter) is like pumping frequency of the cores - it has limit after which it cannot scale. Well it just a thought, I guess they know what they're doing :)

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need? Holy cr@p! Come to think of it, what about the heatsink? Thermal management is going to be interesting.

                      No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones "Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows"

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Less than you might expect. If it had the same memory demands as an i7 per core it would take about 32 DDR3 channels (one of the LGA1156 articles mentioned that the 2x-1333 channels would be able to supply 3 of the 4 cores even in pathological execution cases) to saturate the memory bus vs the 8??? it that the youtube video appears to show; but because these cores are closer to p3 class in capability (if not clock rate) the actual demand is almost certainly far less. I suspect that like with the i7 intel is providing enough memory bandwidth to avoid any saturation problem.

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Can you imagine the memory bandwidth that thing is going to need? Holy cr@p! Come to think of it, what about the heatsink? Thermal management is going to be interesting.

                        No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones "Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows"

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                        that got me thinking how does the main OS "partition" the RAM amongst the VMs on each processor.

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                          Very sweet. I wonder if it would run Windows 7 really fast :) Or maybe 24 copies really normally :)


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                          John M Drescher
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                          The individual cores will be slow so I doubt this will make a happy windows 7 user. Each core will most likely be comparable to atom cpu cores.

                          John

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