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    Juan Carlos Cobas
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    I have recently found out that our software has been cracked and can be downloaded and installed from hotfile and warezcentre.org This is causing us a lot of troubles, specially in China where our distributors find very hard to promote our software when many people can easily install the cracked version for free Has anyone faced a similar problem before? Any advice on the best way to take these cracks off from these sites? Cheers, Carlos

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      I have recently found out that our software has been cracked and can be downloaded and installed from hotfile and warezcentre.org This is causing us a lot of troubles, specially in China where our distributors find very hard to promote our software when many people can easily install the cracked version for free Has anyone faced a similar problem before? Any advice on the best way to take these cracks off from these sites? Cheers, Carlos

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      SimulationofSai
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      Upload a newer version of your product to hotfile and warezcentre.org which when installed will disable the older version :laugh: I'm sure a lot of em will fall for it... :rolleyes:

      SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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        Upload a newer version of your product to hotfile and warezcentre.org which when installed will disable the older version :laugh: I'm sure a lot of em will fall for it... :rolleyes:

        SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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        AndyInUK
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        good idea :laugh:

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          Upload a newer version of your product to hotfile and warezcentre.org which when installed will disable the older version :laugh: I'm sure a lot of em will fall for it... :rolleyes:

          SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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          Juan Carlos Cobas
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          Thanks, I will try this out Carlos

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            Thanks, I will try this out Carlos

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Juan Carlos Cobas wrote:

            Thanks, I will try this out

            Steady! It was said as a joke, might be illegal, and would certainly alienate users. Look at it this way; who is more likely to buy your software, someone who has tried it out and likes it, or someone who has tried it out and liked it until you ****ed with their computer?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Juan Carlos Cobas wrote:

              Thanks, I will try this out

              Steady! It was said as a joke, might be illegal, and would certainly alienate users. Look at it this way; who is more likely to buy your software, someone who has tried it out and likes it, or someone who has tried it out and liked it until you ****ed with their computer?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Juan Carlos Cobas
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              Mark Wallace wrote:

              Steady! It was said as a joke, might be illegal, and would certainly alienate users.

              Illegal? Is it illegal to upload a proper, legal software with the hope to replace an illegal, cracked version?

              Mark Wallace wrote:

              Look at it this way; who is more likely to buy your software, someone who has tried it out and likes it, or someone who has tried it out and liked it until you ****ed with their computer?

              I dont't get this one. Our software can be tried for free so that if someone likes it, he will have the opportunity to buy it. And what do you mean in this context with 'until you ****ed with their computer? ' ? Am I doing anything wrong with uploading a legal software?

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              • J Juan Carlos Cobas

                I have recently found out that our software has been cracked and can be downloaded and installed from hotfile and warezcentre.org This is causing us a lot of troubles, specially in China where our distributors find very hard to promote our software when many people can easily install the cracked version for free Has anyone faced a similar problem before? Any advice on the best way to take these cracks off from these sites? Cheers, Carlos

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                Dan Neely
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                Have one of these :beer: Even if you managed to poison the crack for a day or two the old file would be quickly replaced and most of the software theifs wouldn't ever actaully buy a copy anyway.

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                • J Juan Carlos Cobas

                  I have recently found out that our software has been cracked and can be downloaded and installed from hotfile and warezcentre.org This is causing us a lot of troubles, specially in China where our distributors find very hard to promote our software when many people can easily install the cracked version for free Has anyone faced a similar problem before? Any advice on the best way to take these cracks off from these sites? Cheers, Carlos

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                  Russell Jones
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                  Depends what software you're writing but if you can provide a service that you route through your own servers then you can control whether the user can access that service. The user then gets limited local functionality for free but has to pay to get extended features. These might include BACS payments / customer surveys / software updates etc

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                    Mark Wallace wrote:

                    Steady! It was said as a joke, might be illegal, and would certainly alienate users.

                    Illegal? Is it illegal to upload a proper, legal software with the hope to replace an illegal, cracked version?

                    Mark Wallace wrote:

                    Look at it this way; who is more likely to buy your software, someone who has tried it out and likes it, or someone who has tried it out and liked it until you ****ed with their computer?

                    I dont't get this one. Our software can be tried for free so that if someone likes it, he will have the opportunity to buy it. And what do you mean in this context with 'until you ****ed with their computer? ' ? Am I doing anything wrong with uploading a legal software?

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Juan Carlos Cobas wrote:

                    Illegal? Is it illegal to upload a proper, legal software with the hope to replace an illegal, cracked version?

                    The suggestion was to "disable the older version". It doesn't matter whether or not you've been paid for software; if you go out of your way to "knowingly and willfully" disable anything on someone's machine, you're trouble bound -- getting paid for what is installed on the machine is a separate matter, in law. That is: You can demand that they pay for it, take them to court, the works -- but if you "knowingly and willfully" break something installed on a machine that is someone else's property, your action will be defined legally as hacking.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Juan Carlos Cobas wrote:

                      Illegal? Is it illegal to upload a proper, legal software with the hope to replace an illegal, cracked version?

                      The suggestion was to "disable the older version". It doesn't matter whether or not you've been paid for software; if you go out of your way to "knowingly and willfully" disable anything on someone's machine, you're trouble bound -- getting paid for what is installed on the machine is a separate matter, in law. That is: You can demand that they pay for it, take them to court, the works -- but if you "knowingly and willfully" break something installed on a machine that is someone else's property, your action will be defined legally as hacking.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Juan Carlos Cobas
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                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                      It doesn't matter whether or not you've been paid for software; if you go out of your way to "knowingly and willfully" disable anything on someone's machine, you're trouble bound -- getting paid for what is installed on the machine is a separate matter, in law.

                      The point is that what is installed on the machine is an illegal software. It's the user who installed the software who is breaking the law, together with those sites who are hosting (and even promoting) illegal software Thanks for your comments anyway

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                        Have one of these :beer: Even if you managed to poison the crack for a day or two the old file would be quickly replaced and most of the software theifs wouldn't ever actaully buy a copy anyway.

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        Juan Carlos Cobas
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                        Dan Neely wrote:

                        Have one of these Beer

                        I've drunk enough beers these last few days, but I'll have another one, no problem

                        Dan Neely wrote:

                        Even if you managed to poison the crack for a day or two the old file would be quickly replaced and most of the software theifs wouldn't ever actaully buy a copy anyway

                        I know for sure that those guys we have installed the cracked version will never buy the software In any case, we have no plans on poisoning any of our apps, not even cracked versions

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                          Mark Wallace wrote:

                          It doesn't matter whether or not you've been paid for software; if you go out of your way to "knowingly and willfully" disable anything on someone's machine, you're trouble bound -- getting paid for what is installed on the machine is a separate matter, in law.

                          The point is that what is installed on the machine is an illegal software. It's the user who installed the software who is breaking the law, together with those sites who are hosting (and even promoting) illegal software Thanks for your comments anyway

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Juan Carlos Cobas wrote:

                          The point is that what is installed on the machine is an illegal software. It's the user who installed the software who is breaking the law, together with those sites who are hosting (and even promoting) illegal software

                          In the eyes of the law, what other people do is completely irrelevant. Saying that you are entitled to disable software -- any software, no matter its provenance -- on another person's property is saying that you are entitled to hack. The judge will not agree with you. The law will not care whether or not the other person paid for the software, if it is investigating you for hacking. The law will only care if the software has been paid for if you ask it to -- i.e. you take legal action against the thieves. If you're arrested for hacking, the no-one in the legal system will give a damn about your private opinions of right and wrong. Don't turn yourself into a criminal or try to justify criminal behaviour by saying "he's a criminal too!" It doesn't wash.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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