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Who will topple first? Google or Microsoft?

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  • K Kevin McFarlane

    Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

    Kevin

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    Xiangyang Liu
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    Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time. :)

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      Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time. :)

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

      Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time.

      Oh, you're on it. Good. That saves me the effort.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time. :)

        My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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        dan sh
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        And I will make sure you don't topple before that happens.   ;P

        50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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          Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time. :)

          My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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          Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

          Ok, I will make sure they are toppled at exactly the same time.

          Once you finish that can you topple twats here in The back room[^]? Please?

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

            Kevin

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            Paul Watson
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            Ever? You mean like in 50,000,000,000 years time? Of course, both will be long gone. (Sorry but the question is useless to ask. Even if you define "Ever" as "in 5 years" you'll be a monkey's uncle if you guess right. Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly? Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly? Now we have this "dominant" phase going on and... impossible to say when it will end and by whom.)

            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

              Kevin

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              This won't topple![^]


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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              • P Paul Watson

                Ever? You mean like in 50,000,000,000 years time? Of course, both will be long gone. (Sorry but the question is useless to ask. Even if you define "Ever" as "in 5 years" you'll be a monkey's uncle if you guess right. Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly? Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly? Now we have this "dominant" phase going on and... impossible to say when it will end and by whom.)

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                I wasn't quite net-savvy back then, so I don't know about Altavista, but Myspace always was god-awful. Don't even mention Orkut.

                Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

                  Kevin

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                  Zhat
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                  Which one is further away from the LHC?

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                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                    Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

                    Kevin

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                    Planet Earth - at the rate we're heading.

                    Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Ever? You mean like in 50,000,000,000 years time? Of course, both will be long gone. (Sorry but the question is useless to ask. Even if you define "Ever" as "in 5 years" you'll be a monkey's uncle if you guess right. Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly? Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly? Now we have this "dominant" phase going on and... impossible to say when it will end and by whom.)

                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly?

                      ... and before that webcrawler.

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                        I wasn't quite net-savvy back then, so I don't know about Altavista, but Myspace always was god-awful. Don't even mention Orkut.

                        Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                        Vikram, On the side note, was AP really tensed with the telangana issue.. Being in Germany , I could not gauge the mood in India My old geography book is missing around 5-6 states already :)

                        cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

                          Kevin

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          If Google was just in the Search business, then it would have been toppled easily. If Microsoft was just in the OS business, then it would have been toppled easily. Fortunately, both businesses have expanded into different areas which makes it difficult for anyone to topple them. Both companies will continue to acquire other companies to expand their competencies. I think new players will emerge but not at the expense of Google or MS.

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                          • K Kevin McFarlane

                            Will Google ever be toppled from search? Will MS ever be toppled from OS or from Office apps? If so, which will happen first? In theory it should be easier to topple Google than MS. In practice Google seems to be just as hard to topple as MS.

                            Kevin

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                            There are Google alternatives out there/far weaker though/, but there are no alternatives for the Microsoft’s OS or Dev Tools. So I would say that Google is more fragile than MC. Edit: Additionally I wouldn’t bet my money on a company which entire income is based on advertisements, adds etc. Edit2: Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see either of the both company going under. Microsoft made the computer useful and Google made Internet useful, so they both deserve to exist.

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                            • P Paul Watson

                              Ever? You mean like in 50,000,000,000 years time? Of course, both will be long gone. (Sorry but the question is useless to ask. Even if you define "Ever" as "in 5 years" you'll be a monkey's uncle if you guess right. Who would have predicted MySpace losing to Facebook so quickly? Altavista to Yahoo to Google so quickly? Now we have this "dominant" phase going on and... impossible to say when it will end and by whom.)

                              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                              The "ever" was an afterthought, partly addressed to those who seem to think that the only way of overcoming Microsoft or Google is by legislation. :)

                              Kevin

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                                Careful now - you might invoke the wrath of the almighty CSS... //L

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  If Google was just in the Search business, then it would have been toppled easily. If Microsoft was just in the OS business, then it would have been toppled easily. Fortunately, both businesses have expanded into different areas which makes it difficult for anyone to topple them. Both companies will continue to acquire other companies to expand their competencies. I think new players will emerge but not at the expense of Google or MS.

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  Fortunately, both businesses have expanded into different areas which makes it difficult for anyone to topple them.

                                  Well, I really meant topple them in their core products. I don't expect either to be toppled solely by their being toppled in their core products. However, I would say that, for me, it is the combination of their other products that makes it difficult for me to junk their core products. E.g., I use a number of Google's cloud apps. and it is convenient to also combine those with its search products. So Bing/Yahoo would have to be much better to win me over.

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                                    Careful now - you might invoke the wrath of the almighty CSS... //L

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                                    CSS and his head of conspiracy theories - the last thing I need on a Thursday afternoon.

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      If Google was just in the Search business, then it would have been toppled easily. If Microsoft was just in the OS business, then it would have been toppled easily. Fortunately, both businesses have expanded into different areas which makes it difficult for anyone to topple them. Both companies will continue to acquire other companies to expand their competencies. I think new players will emerge but not at the expense of Google or MS.

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                                      Google is in the advertising business. They may have competencies in hundreds of other areas but over 90% of its revenues come from advertising. Invent a better advertising system and Google will topple. It will be unable to sustain all its free services. You don't have to compete with Google's email or mobile OS products, you only have to compete with their advertising product (good luck with that.) (Just saying you shouldn't confuse what a company does with what pays the bills. Microsoft has expensive departments carried by just a few core departments that make all the money. So they are susceptible too.)

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                        Fortunately, both businesses have expanded into different areas which makes it difficult for anyone to topple them.

                                        Well, I really meant topple them in their core products. I don't expect either to be toppled solely by their being toppled in their core products. However, I would say that, for me, it is the combination of their other products that makes it difficult for me to junk their core products. E.g., I use a number of Google's cloud apps. and it is convenient to also combine those with its search products. So Bing/Yahoo would have to be much better to win me over.

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        That is from a user perspective though. If someone came along and took all of Google's advertising business then Google would have to can the free cloud apps and you'd be forced elsewhere. So to topple Google you topple their advertising revenue (not search.)

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          There are Google alternatives out there/far weaker though/, but there are no alternatives for the Microsoft’s OS or Dev Tools. So I would say that Google is more fragile than MC. Edit: Additionally I wouldn’t bet my money on a company which entire income is based on advertisements, adds etc. Edit2: Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see either of the both company going under. Microsoft made the computer useful and Google made Internet useful, so they both deserve to exist.

                                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

                                          modified on Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:52 AM

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                          There are Google alternatives out there/far weaker though

                                          I wouldn't say they are far weaker, but they are weaker though. They need to be better to make any headway, not just as good.

                                          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                          there are no alternatives for the Microsoft’s OS or Dev Tools

                                          I thought there were plenty of alternatives. Perhaps you mean there are no half decent alternatives?

                                          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                          I wouldn’t bet my money on a company which entire income is based on advertisements

                                          Google's isn't, though the bulk of it is.

                                          Kevin

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