Hiking in Iraq?
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Trollslayer wrote:
and they would expect others to get them out of trouble.
They are obviously idiots and/or pitifully naive but what makes you think they "expect" anything from others?
They didn't take cyanide pills with them so if they were captured they could end thier lives rather than be used as pawns or have to be rescued. Obviously that means they expected to have someone bail them out. I mean come on, who goes hiking in such an environment without a cyanide tooth or det cord shoe laces, a pocket knife, some duck tape, and an ignition source?
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It's amazing how many people display a complete lack of that seemingly rare and misnamed quality, "Common Sense".
common sense isn't common.
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common sense isn't common.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
common sense isn't common.
Sounds better without that last word :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Where do I start :) First prestigious University of California, Berkeley is a big maybe. On the eastern half of the nation Berkley is looked at as strange. Gee lets all go to a place where they shot first then ask questions. Who ever gave them a passport that let them go to Iraq in the first place should be fired (or shot ;P ). Mrs. Clinton asking a Muslim nation (woman asking)?? - (This is my ignorance of Muslim religion):confused:
djj55 wrote:
Who ever gave them a passport that let them go to Iraq in the first place should be fired
No, that bureaucrat should be promoted immediately for improving the US gene pool.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
common sense isn't common.
Sounds better without that last word :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Oh sure, make sense... I know there's a pun in here somewhere, btu I am really too tired to figure it out and I am going home.
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Oh sure, make sense... I know there's a pun in here somewhere, btu I am really too tired to figure it out and I am going home.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
I know there's a pun in here somewhere
Sorry, not my department... And it's 9pm in the UK, so DD probably isn't on.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Surely these three are Darwin award candidates: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8411621.stm[^]
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
Well, I'm sure they're getting a real education now. Welcome to the real world, suckers!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Surely these three are Darwin award candidates: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8411621.stm[^]
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
Granted, going hiking in Iraq requires a good amount of naivety or good preparation, and the one thing I'd take care of near the Iranian border is knowing exactly where I am. Not that this is hard anymore, and therein lies a problem. Few places are left that are not touristically developed and are bearable - or at least interesting. Very few of these are actually affordable. There are places in the jungle where all electricity comes from diesel generators - yet they have two internet cafes (but that's probably changed already). Getting away from civilization, finding your sweet spot between protection and freedom has become virtually impossible, since just beyond the packaged day tours, it's only two steps to the nogo. (I am not blaming technology - it's just the way it is).
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Granted, going hiking in Iraq requires a good amount of naivety or good preparation, and the one thing I'd take care of near the Iranian border is knowing exactly where I am. Not that this is hard anymore, and therein lies a problem. Few places are left that are not touristically developed and are bearable - or at least interesting. Very few of these are actually affordable. There are places in the jungle where all electricity comes from diesel generators - yet they have two internet cafes (but that's probably changed already). Getting away from civilization, finding your sweet spot between protection and freedom has become virtually impossible, since just beyond the packaged day tours, it's only two steps to the nogo. (I am not blaming technology - it's just the way it is).
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v serverpeterchen wrote:
going hiking in Iraq requires a good amount of naivety or good preparation
:)
peterchen wrote:
the one thing I'd take care of near the Iranian border is knowing exactly where I am
Trouble with that is if recent history is any guide the Iranians themselves either don't have a solid idea where their border is or more likely don't care if you come to close to it.
peterchen wrote:
Few places are left that are not touristically developed and are bearable - or at least interesting. Very few of these are actually affordable.
Here in Canada there are many places that would suffice; I live on an island and am still within a 10 minute drive of over two thousand square kilometers of wilderness much of which you would be hard pressed to find any evidence of human civilization with the exception of a jet plane flying over once in a while.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
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djj55 wrote:
prestigious University of California, Berkeley is a big maybe. On the eastern half of the nation Berkley is looked at as strange.
If you are studying Physics it is better than most schools on either half of the nation.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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djj55 wrote:
Who ever gave them a passport that let them go to Iraq in the first place should be fired
No, that bureaucrat should be promoted immediately for improving the US gene pool.
I was going to say that the 'crat also improved that of Iran, but I bet no one in Iran would have been so stupid as to go hiking in a war zone, except under the direct auspices of the government. And the Iranians I have know have been pretty smart. But they all got out before the Shah fell. Well, like you said, at least they improved the US.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Granted, going hiking in Iraq requires a good amount of naivety or good preparation, and the one thing I'd take care of near the Iranian border is knowing exactly where I am. Not that this is hard anymore, and therein lies a problem. Few places are left that are not touristically developed and are bearable - or at least interesting. Very few of these are actually affordable. There are places in the jungle where all electricity comes from diesel generators - yet they have two internet cafes (but that's probably changed already). Getting away from civilization, finding your sweet spot between protection and freedom has become virtually impossible, since just beyond the packaged day tours, it's only two steps to the nogo. (I am not blaming technology - it's just the way it is).
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v serverTry Oz, NZ or PNG. In these countries there are plenty of places that not touristy but are fantastically interesting, great hiking etc. I'm sure there are other locations with a bit of effort one can find.
Peter Hayward Ngarkat Technologies South Australia,
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You really can't fix stupid.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Surely these three are Darwin award candidates: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8411621.stm[^]
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
I have a suspicion that there is more to the story. One of them is a freelance journalist. My guess is that they thought that they can come back and share the experiences in a blog or get paid by selling their story to someone.
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peterchen wrote:
going hiking in Iraq requires a good amount of naivety or good preparation
:)
peterchen wrote:
the one thing I'd take care of near the Iranian border is knowing exactly where I am
Trouble with that is if recent history is any guide the Iranians themselves either don't have a solid idea where their border is or more likely don't care if you come to close to it.
peterchen wrote:
Few places are left that are not touristically developed and are bearable - or at least interesting. Very few of these are actually affordable.
Here in Canada there are many places that would suffice; I live on an island and am still within a 10 minute drive of over two thousand square kilometers of wilderness much of which you would be hard pressed to find any evidence of human civilization with the exception of a jet plane flying over once in a while.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
John C wrote:
I live on an island and am still within a 10 minute drive of over two thousand square kilometers of wilderness much of which you would be hard pressed to find any evidence of human civilization with the exception of a jet plane flying over once in a while.
BC? Labrador?
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John C wrote:
I live on an island and am still within a 10 minute drive of over two thousand square kilometers of wilderness much of which you would be hard pressed to find any evidence of human civilization with the exception of a jet plane flying over once in a while.
BC? Labrador?
If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?