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    Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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      Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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      System Operator and Security Officer. (Pompous Enough?) This was on an AS400 Mainframe back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.

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        System Operator and Security Officer. (Pompous Enough?) This was on an AS400 Mainframe back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.

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        You had both titles at once, on the same line on your card? It's certainly pompous, though still a bit vague, the "System Operator" part. This could be - as I suppose is my basic grudge against the 'developer'-tag - describing anyone from the receptionist to, well, God.

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          You had both titles at once, on the same line on your card? It's certainly pompous, though still a bit vague, the "System Operator" part. This could be - as I suppose is my basic grudge against the 'developer'-tag - describing anyone from the receptionist to, well, God.

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          Funny thing is that IBM recommend that no one person fills both roles. I started as the SysOp, but when the SecOff left there was no-one available at short notice to fill in, so I took it over. The company were fine with that as it meant a small increment in my salary rather than another large salary to find, and I got total control over the system. I made myself priority zero, meaning all my jobs and prints ran to the top of the queue, even ahead of Directors (priority one), Departmental Heads (priority 2), Managers (P3), Everyone Else (P5). You may have noticed P4 missing, that is because I held that back for certain individuals who were particular friends of mine. (Oh yes I was corrupt even then, before I became an accountant! :) )

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            System Operator and Security Officer. (Pompous Enough?) This was on an AS400 Mainframe back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Your job title is So So?

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              Your job title is So So?

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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              No, it is really good! :)

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                Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                Not my current, but one of my favourite job titles: "Section Leader who couldn't be bothered to think of a pretentious name for his section but who wanted a long job title to annoy the personnel department when the time came to have the business card printed." Strangly, it annoyed the personnel department and they came in as "Section Leader" - couldn't understand why. Perhaps is was the mock up I sent with it, with the foot long extension piece glued on?

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                  Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                  Not something I think about really, it doesn't mean a lot to me. The original job posting title was "Graduate Software Engineer", but I've also seen "Junior Software Developer". What annoys me is that for a while now, I've been far from a Graduate/Junior, which has been reflected in the type/complexity/amount of work I do. Of course, this is not reflected in my bank account, because pay reviews are currently "suspended" :rolleyes:

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                    Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                    We discussed the difference between the titles a short while ago here. Roughly, my interpretation: Coder: spec -> code Programmer: also able to require clarification of spec where necessary, able to detect and correct glaring mistakes Developer: also, problem -> spec

                    Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                      Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                      If you want something pompous... Director of the R+D and IT department. I think this is enough... ;)

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                        We discussed the difference between the titles a short while ago here. Roughly, my interpretation: Coder: spec -> code Programmer: also able to require clarification of spec where necessary, able to detect and correct glaring mistakes Developer: also, problem -> spec

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                        You missed 'Lord High Ninja Coder' -> emits static to set the bits in a computer's memory, resulting in a new software paradigm.


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                          If you want something pompous... Director of the R+D and IT department. I think this is enough... ;)

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                          RaDIT?


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                            Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                            Code Monkey is the latest trend - trust me.

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                              Your job title is So So?

                              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                              yup: DeeDee, SoSo. :)

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                                We discussed the difference between the titles a short while ago here. Roughly, my interpretation: Coder: spec -> code Programmer: also able to require clarification of spec where necessary, able to detect and correct glaring mistakes Developer: also, problem -> spec

                                Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                                harleydk
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                                That's certainly a valid attempt, I like the outcome of your discussion. Although the "able to detect and correct glaring mistakes" for some reason seems strangely out of place :)

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                                  That's certainly a valid attempt, I like the outcome of your discussion. Although the "able to detect and correct glaring mistakes" for some reason seems strangely out of place :)

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                                  harleydk wrote:

                                  "able to detect and correct glaring mistakes" for some reason seems strangely out of place

                                  Maybe the description is not as good. With a incomplete/bad spec, I expect a code monkey to dutifully implement it, and a programmer to put the spec on my desk, saying "This is not a Spec". btw. the business card just says "Software Development", the sig says either "Software Development" or "Software Development Manager", depending on whom I have to deal with :)

                                  Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                                    Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                                      Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                                        Hello all, I got a bunch of business cards today, and my title simple says 'Developer'. That has become the standard, I guess, at least around here. I did get to wonder, though, when this switch came across: I used to be a 'programmer'. I always thought that fit the bill better, at least it's a more accurate description. "Developer" seems a bit vague, or even pompous. Anyone remember their first programming-related job-title?

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Did ya hear the one about the guy who called himself a Troublemaker";drop table Employees;?

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                                          Did ya hear the one about the guy who called himself a Troublemaker";drop table Employees;?

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                          ripping off xkcd[^] is lame.

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